#28 – Answering Your Questions!

FEAT JUSTIN "DABBY" TEMPLETON

4 years ago
Transcript
Speaker A:

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Speaker B:

Podcast with your hosts, Jim colby and Rob dolson. Hey, guys, welcome to the podcast. This week, I'm actually in West Virginia. I'm helping a friend, originally a fan of ours on the podcast to set up an entire fish room. And it's going to be, what, 1100 gallons when it's all said and done?

Speaker C:

Yes, 1100 gallons.

Speaker B:

Fantastic. So I'm here with Justin templeton. He is a big fan of the show and just said, hey, Rob, can you come out, help me with this, get it done. So I've been here for now this is what, the fourth day?

Speaker C:

Fourth day.

Speaker B:

I'm going home tomorrow, and I just didn't want to miss out on the podcast. And we go extra the mile to get you guys valuable content. But again, I'm your host, Rob olsen.

Speaker D:

I'm Jim colby.

Speaker E:

And I'm Adam luchar.

Speaker B:

Welcome to the party that is the Aquarium Guys podcast. We're sitting here in the hotel room in West Virginia with a bedsheet over our head just to make sure we can try to get the audio quality as good as possible. So certainly forgive us this podcast we want to go over, and we've saved a bunch of you guys'questions. Whether they're from email, from Facebook, or from discord, we have gathered a subset of hand picked questions, and we're going to finally chew them down. We've had a bunch that can get answered a lot, or maybe it's that one secret thing that you've always wanted to know. So we're going to take the opportunity to review those. But before we do, let's do some house cleaning. So being in West Virginia, there's a bit of a culture shock here, and I'm the banning, that wasn't the first clue. The banjo's, the missing no, just kidding. I'm joking. It's actually a very pretty countryside, very hilly. We're not quite in the mountains, but there's springs everywhere. I'm used to seeing bodies of water. So sitting in spring is not that common in Minnesota. They're there, but they are everywhere here. Like there's a spring right outside our hotel window. It's, it's beautiful. But I'm learning that there's a lot of different mannerisms in different states. So we stopped at a pet store, we were heading there. They closed at seven. We got ten minutes to get there to pick up something for the room we're working in. So I called the phone, pick up on the phone and called the pet store and I said, hey, sir, I'm just on my way to pick up this item. Is it possible you could hold the door for me? And the guy got angry with me on the phone and says, no, we are locking at 07:00. And just got snippy and hung up the phone. I'm like, well, I think I'm going to make a difference time. Anyway, sure enough we did and apparently Justin told me we have a debate on that, that hold the door for me is somehow rude.

Speaker C:

It is rude.

Speaker B:

How is it rude?

Speaker C:

It's rude. It is looked at as uppity. Here you are asking someone else to hold the door for you. Like I'm so important and I'm such a vip that you should hold the door for me. And that's why he was rude to you.

Speaker B:

So sure enough, we got in the pet store, the owner was there. The other guy immediately saw us and walked off. Pissed because I don't know, clearly I pissed in this buckwheat. But I talked to the owner. If you could he seems to already in the back room. Could you apologize for me? In Minnesota that's just like, I don't know, a nonchalant term, like oh, could you just be a bro and just hold that for me until I get there. I'm going to be like two minutes late and just getting one item. Thank you. We've been having a debate, stopping at gas stations, asking, hey, is this a true thing? And trying to do a review and so far it's pretty well in your favor. Justin, I'm learning that in West Virginia, don't ask to hold the door open because they're just going to slam in your face.

Speaker E:

Well, they're not meant for the knife.

Speaker D:

Wow, you're pissing off people in other states and you've only been here for four days. That's pretty cool.

Speaker B:

I know.

Speaker E:

That has got to be a record, isn't it?

Speaker D:

No, it's not a record. He usually does it in about ten minutes.

Speaker B:

Love you too. Another thing is I just want to give these guys a shout out to the pet store. It's inland. Reef pet store in crosslands, West Virginia. And it's, it's a fantastic pet store. The owner there or the manager there was very nice, very accommodating and certainly give a shout out on the podcast to them. I certainly told them I would and they were very nice. Once I explained myself and told them, I apologize for being rude. Another thing I learned in the last two weeks that's blown my mind is maybe you guys know more and I'm really asking for a call for help. I have now learned that Minnesota has freshwater jellyfish.

Speaker D:

What?

Speaker B:

For one, I didn't know that there was freshwater jellyfish, much less them being able to live and thrive in Minnesota.

Speaker D:

Where are these located, robs?

Speaker B:

So apparently looking this up, and I even messaged the DNR on this.

Speaker D:

Don't believe the DNR. They won't even tell me where bigfoot is.

Speaker B:

I know, right? They are located in random places across the state. And if you go to wikipedia, they actually show there was a big bloom of them across a lot of Minnesota lakes in 2010, that people were finding them all over the place.

Speaker D:

What type of jellyfish are they?

Speaker B:

So I can't pronounce it, but we'll put the name in the show notes. It's a long, complicated name. I cannot find some sort of common nickname, but the only thing I've heard them referred to is freshwater jellyfish. I'm assuming that is the only breed, but if that's the case, I want to find these. I want to make a jellyfish aquarium because now they have jellyfish aquarium for saltwater tanks. Why can I do it for freshman bizarre?

Speaker E:

I'm pretty sure I've seen them in a few lakes up north in itasca county.

Speaker B:

They're in a lot of places I heard, like clear lake, Minnesota. There's a lot. The more I search, the more I find pictures of people having them. We have this business called Zorbas that's in different places across Minnesota where they have pizza and Mexican joint, and I'm seeing people with Zorbas cups scooping them from the water. So they're there during certain seasonal times of the year. I must find these things. So if you have information, email us from the aquariumguyspodcast.com. You'll see our email address or telephone number at the bottom of the website. I want to know more. This is certainly a shocking discovery for me that you have an alien species outside your back door and freezing temperatures.

Speaker C:

We'll have to bring you back down to west Virginia so we can take you to burns lake. We have them in burnsville lake here.

Speaker B:

You do?

Speaker C:

Yes.

Speaker B:

So is this like a seasonal thing?

Speaker C:

I know when we get croppy fishing out on burnsville lake, we see them out there during that time. So late fall, October, novemberish, I see them. But that would have been the last time I was there.

Speaker B:

Now, for those who are listening and are worried that they're going to go take their kids to sew a lake and get their kids stung by jellyfish, these jellyfish do not harm people, so don't be worried about them. They're completely harmless. In fact, they're not even listed as a hard, invasive species on the Minnesota DNR website due to the fact they really don't affect anything in the water. They're not seeing things eat on them and they're not seeing things they're taking over any ecology in the water. So not a lot to known about them because they're not creating a problem.

Speaker E:

Do what we should do, cross them with Portuguese Man of wars.

Speaker B:

See then you create a problem. I'm just a scifi movie.

Speaker E:

Oh this would be perfect. Like, jellyfish of the lake. Like, off the Scifi Channel. Like we could have jellyfish. NATO.

Speaker D:

Yeah that sounds just as scary as sharknado.

Speaker B:

Absolutely.

Speaker D:

It's right up there with anaconda and all these other great movies that we see late at night.

Speaker B:

See they're going to get mistaken for jimmy's catheter.

Speaker D:

There we go. Yeah. Where else do you find all these weird stuff but in Minnesota and West Virginia?

Speaker B:

Ain'T that the truth. So do you guys get any updates before we continue?

Speaker D:

No, I'm just sitting down here in studio B by myself with your whites underwear in my head because there's nobody here to stop me. It's kind of fun.

Speaker B:

As well you should. I do the same thing if it was your house.

Speaker D:

Yes, but your wife's underwear is not in my house.

Speaker B:

So here's one thing. So when you were gone we were going to talk to the listeners. Last week when you were gone you went on a trip montres of Rock Cruise. Is that correct Jimmy?

Speaker D:

Yes, that's the one I go on at the Montreal Rock cruise. We're actually going to sign up for the next one here on the 25th.

Speaker B:

So you were gone and you had your son watch your house. So I contacted your son immediately. As soon as you I know you it was wonderful because you're like how can we prank Jimmy when he's gone? So we collected a glass you know what, this is a fun podcast. We collected a glass dildo and we put it in your tank. How long did it take for you and your wife to find it?

Speaker D:

My wife noticed it in 27 seconds. She didn't put down her suitcase and she went what in the hell's in my aquarium? And then and here's the good here's the good news. Her little discus died and she blamed you.

Speaker B:

Oh no.

Speaker D:

You killed her fish.

Speaker B:

So I washed that thing vigorously, trust me.

Speaker D:

Yeah, I'm sure you did. I don't want to know where you washed it or where you put it in to wash it but yeah, one of her little discus died and she goes robbie's nuts are mine.

Speaker B:

All right. I'll have to buy her another discus.

Speaker D:

So you might want to dodge the bullet when you come to my house and just duck in case a frying pan comes flying across.

Speaker E:

She might kick him in the nuts. That might be a better idea.

Speaker B:

Yeah, no this podcast leans one direction and that she's going to punch me in the throat.

Speaker D:

This probably the first time that I have to pick you up off the floor after my wife knocks you out.

Speaker B:

Right?

Speaker D:

So you're gone, you're out of the state.

Speaker B:

Out of the state.

Speaker D:

God, what's happening at your house? I can't imagine what's happening at your house right now. I'm at your house. I'm all by myself. I haven't even seen the cat yet so I don't know where's the cat quoted.

Speaker B:

You ate it. That's what happened.

Speaker D:

Yeah. So next week we can all talk about what happened at Robbie's house and that will be fun for me.

Speaker B:

Anyway, Jimmy gets payback.

Speaker D:

You know what, I've had a lot of suggestions from people because I've talked to other people. There's a lot of mean freaking people in this world, I'll tell you that much. My goodness. They gave me some great ideas and so I want to thank everybody who's given me ideas what to do to Robbie's house and stuff. But I don't think burning it to the ground will satisfy me. So I got something else planned and it's going to be kind of fun for all of us.

Speaker B:

Lovely. So just to continue the joke, we posted the picture of this while you were gone on Discord because we realized that you forgot your password on Discord.

Speaker D:

Yeah, I was on discord today. Yeah, I saw stuff.

Speaker B:

Yeah, we shared it with everybody on Discord. So they followed along and when we got justin's main tank in his basement done, we're like, you know what, we're going to get one. So we got the exact same one and now it's in his aquarium as well. So we now christened new tanks with dildos. Thanks Jimmy.

Speaker D:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

You started the trend.

Speaker D:

That is wonderful. And you'll get a cease and assist here shortly because you can't be fairly.

Speaker C:

Do not get discus.

Speaker D:

Yeah, don't put discus in there and if you do, just throw them on the floor. Don't even put them in the tank, just kill them right away. Put them on tank because apparently this discus came around the plant and saw this large thing sticking and sticking out of the gravel and he went, oh I can't take that and die.

Speaker B:

Really?

Speaker D:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

All right, so let's get to the first question then. So the first question that we have is done on our Facebook page. It's. Aquarium. Guys. Podcast. We have a group but someone messaged us individually, started asking questions. Are there any market for clown loaches? And I'm looking to read them for money. So I said absolutely, clown loaches fetch a decent price. But I did warn him that clown loaches are one of the slowest growing fish. So if he wants to do that, you're not going to make a whole lot of profit. At least not fast. Clown coaches are expensive for on purpose because they take so long to grow.

Speaker D:

And the problem with clown loaches is that in order to get them to size, you're going to pay a considerable amount of money to get breeders oh, absolutely. And down to Forest Lake. What did we see? We saw eight, nine inch clown loaches. They're asking 139 for them.

Speaker B:

And you certainly can wholesale large clown loaches. It just doesn't happen.

Speaker D:

Yeah, it's I mean, $139 for a clown loach, it's going to take that special person to buy it. I bring in you got to make.

Speaker E:

Sure it doesn't get ick.

Speaker D:

Right? And another scaleless fish. Every time you move them, they get upset. They get ick. You got to keep them warm. You got to keep them hidden. pvc pipe. When I bring them in, I bring in 90 to 150 of them at a crack. The thing to do with cloud loach is if you're going to buy a bunch, try to breed them, you definitely want to put them in the tank. Put a bunch of six inch pieces of pvc pipe in there, they'll go in there and hide. Leave the light off in the tank for the first couple of days and feed them frozen bloodworms and really watch for ic. You can't stress that enough. So you definitely can buy the inch and a half to two inch clown loaches for, you know, six, $8 a piece at your local pet store and stuff. But you're going to spend a lot of time raising them up to get them to breathable size. So that's a particular fish where I would probably buy adults breedable size. And I'm not sure exactly what size they'll start breeding, but I would buy that size rather than waste a year or two to try to give them that size to breathe.

Speaker E:

I want to say they start at like six inches.

Speaker D:

Do they?

Speaker E:

Yeah. For some reason, that popped in my head.

Speaker D:

In all my years, I've never talked to anybody that's red clown loaches. So if somebody out there has bred clown loaches, give us a holler and let us know how to do it and see if it was successful or not for you. And I don't even have any idea how many eggs they lay. So it'd be interesting to find out.

Speaker E:

Are they a scatter? Like coolies? Because I've bred coolies once before.

Speaker D:

Yeah, I've had coolies breed a couple of times in my tank, but have no idea how they did it.

Speaker B:

I just suddenly saw coolies.

Speaker D:

Yeah, baby, coolie.

Speaker B:

You don't really see cooley loaches. They just disappear in your tank, right? It's the remnants of them.

Speaker D:

Yeah, exactly.

Speaker B:

So after I answer the question on Facebook, they just wanted to let us know that guys, you're awesome. Love the enthusiasm for the hobby. I've been in the hobby for 30 years. Listen to the podcast, all the podcasts a couple of times now. And after listening to you guys, my interest for the hobby keeps just growing stronger. He said Fmelta and betty White is hot.

Speaker D:

Hey, your mom is on board with us finally. Thank goodness. I love your mom.

Speaker B:

Thank you. jameson, I think I'm saying that correctly from Facebook. Now, more questions. Right?

Speaker D:

What else you got wrapped?

Speaker B:

I have emails. Let's go to the emails next. Right. My wife has recently was given a 120 gallon tank set up from her work. I've always loved fish and like to keep them. I look more into them, keep finding people that are saying they'll just randomly die if you don't get them. And here he's referring to electric Blue Jack dams. That's the title of the email says. Do you guys have any experience with this fish or know if the rumors are true? I have had friends that kept them with no problems whatsoever. What would you recommend, Jimmy? What's your experience with Electric Blue Jack dempsey to warn him about?

Speaker D:

Well, right now I have electric blue Jack dempsey that I special ordered for a customer. And when I told him the price, he went, Well, I don't want them. First of all, they're expensive, even at wholesale. On sale, $7 for an inch and a quarter fish. They're beautiful, but to get them to grow to saleable size once again takes a little bit of time. But I think you can have some success with Electric Blue Jack dempsey if you put them in there. From what I'm finding out is that the rams really kind of like a little bit of a current. Because in my acrylic system, I've been putting rams in the last two months and I've been having pretty good success compared to what I had with in aquariums. So I don't know what the deal is, but some fish love the current, some don't. I've failed miserably with angel fish. They didn't like the current much. The discus, which I bring in and put in my acrylic unit, four inch, five inch, they seem to do well in the current, so I would definitely give it a try. Electric blue. Jack dempsey's are a wonderful fish. There's electric Blue akaras out there. There's all kinds of electric blue rams and they are vibrant in color. And I think you'd probably have a beautiful tank if you can get them in, keep them going for the first 30 days, get them eating. And what I would try to do is probably put a little bit of arithmetic in in frozen blood worms. What I found out when I was down in Florida, if you take the medicines that you would normally treat a fish and you could put it you take a small bed, a cup, you put two or three cubes of blood worms and melt them down. And then put the powdered stuff, whatever you're treating with arithmeticin or melting acid, you put it right into the blood worms and the bloodworms kind of suck it right up. And what happens is when you feed that blood worms, they ingest that medicine and it's 90% more effective when they ingest it compared to when you just throw it in the water.

Speaker B:

What you're saying is you're hiding pills and the cheese with your Fit.

Speaker D:

Basically, it's all I get. That's kind of how your wife gets you to take your medicine.

Speaker B:

Yeah, absolutely. Otherwise I wouldn't be here. All right, next question I have from Philip. I'll try to make this as short as possible. First, I love your show. Something new every show. Awesome. Please keep it up. Amazing knowledge. Next, I have a community tank with some fish. There are and he puts a list here. But to be honest, I called him after this. He has a telephone number and it's a massive community that he has in this tank. He certainly overdone it. He has three butterfly koi. He's got angel fish. It looks like a pear in there. He's got some big ball of sharks. He has a fire eel. cory and the stuff that he didn't mention I'm seeing because he sent me a full picture. He's got parrot, cichlids, goldfish, a bunch of fantail goldfish, mixed ones, barbs. It's just a full, full tank. So I went through the whole list and he mentioned the question was, I want to get some more fish. What's your opinion on getting maybe three more angels, some rose line shark, clown loaches? And my son really wants to crave, so I called him up and he's really enthusiastic. aquarist he actually has some help there. He's a local guy that comes cleans his tank, and apparently the local guy that come clean this tank has to do it often because it's a very full. So I told them that, you know, the main problem with it is you're putting number one. Those koi will not live the stunt in your tank. They're not going to grow in your tank. The goldfish immediately get the coy out. The goldfish are fantastic. They could be in there, but really the bioload on that alone is going to just skyrocket the tank. So get rid of the goldfish and coil. And after you do that, you'll have some room, but you have to be careful what you have. You have long, thin fish in there. So no crayfish if you're going to have angels.

Speaker E:

Well, the fire eel, the crayfish, right?

Speaker B:

And I mentioned that this whole thing, once his fire eel gets a little bit bigger, it just has to do with size. He'll start eating his fish one by one. It's like, oh, no, he's being good, like, yes, but they're going to get twice the size that you're already at. So he agreed and called me up or let me know after this that he's he is getting rid of the koi, the goldfish and the eel. And to replace it, he's going to get rose line sharks and climbing. So it'll be a nice community tank. I think the most aggressive thing will happen there is the parrot fish. So we helped him out with some advice. But just take note on this. This was one of our listeners if you got koi. Koi can grow over a foot a year in perfect conditions. People are like, I'll have coy in there until part of the time, maybe a couple of years before I put them in a pond. You're going to stunt the koi? It's not great to keep them in anything long term. If you're going to get it a koi, get a pond. That's my advice there.

Speaker D:

The other thing that I really like, what you said, rob's, is the bioload. And Adam, I think you could agree with me on this. I would say a coy that's maybe five or six inches probably puts out enough poop where you could have 40 or 50 neons in there easy and drop the same amount of bioload. So, I mean, people love all the different kinds of fish and stuff. And I tell you what, kudos for trying to do it and having success. I mean, obviously he's having success, but to try to avoid problems down the road, I definitely would go with something like robson and getting rid of the goldfish and whatnot. What do you have, Adam?

Speaker E:

Well, if he likes his big fish, he could have maybe got like a cattle tank and done the goldfish in there for some other stuff. I always stick cold water with cold water. I never stick warm water fish with cold water fish. But, yeah, the bioload was going to be just for the goldfish was too much.

Speaker D:

Right.

Speaker B:

And it's not just temperature by doing that, most of these cold water fish, like Coin goldfish, they're, they're carp. So, number one, they're going to mouth everything. That's what they interact excuse me, interact with their world. And angel fish aren't going to really appreciate, you know, a fish swimming up to them, just mouthing them off. So it's, it will work. It's not the best environment. And then you have the thing of temperature. Goldfish do better at a 60 degree temp than they would at 80.

Speaker D:

You know, I really think that the answer here is buy another tank, you know? Yeah, I just, I just encourage people. If you're going to have a cold water tank, have a heated tank, have a brackish tank, have lots of tanks. Kind of like what justin's doing over where you guys are at and stuff. If you want to have a nice variety, put in multiple tanks. They're not that expensive once you pay attention to where you can get them. Or watch for the bucket gallon sale at the local petco and whatnot.

Speaker E:

So, yeah, definitely craigslist, for big tanks.

Speaker D:

Yeah, like Adam said, a cattle trough up here in Minnesota, 4 July, maybe August, the ice will go off my pond and we're going to put some coy out there and we'll probably have to put mittens on them and little ear muffs and stuff. But I'm looking forward to the spring because it's the first time I've had a pond out in my yard in my 55 years of life. So I'm excited about it.

Speaker B:

And note that when you have these indoors, when I say that Goldfish and Koi have no stomachs, it's just all intestines. So they can eat every hour on the hour, continually, nonstop, and just push it out. They are literally pooping machines.

Speaker D:

Yeah. If you want some great information, I'm not sure what episode it is, but we had one of the our friends with the Koi farm, and I think five was it number five?

Speaker B:

Greg bickle and Greg pickle.

Speaker D:

He gave us just an incredible amount of great information. So I invite you to go back to revisit that, listen to Greg talk about it and stuff. Go out there and set up an additional tank so you have my permission to go out and buy another tank. Don't ask your wife, your girlfriend or your roommate. Just do it.

Speaker B:

And if they question you, just like, listen to this podcast. That's all got to tell them.

Speaker D:

That's right. Sometimes it's better to get what is it? Get permission?

Speaker E:

No, ask for forgiveness than permission.

Speaker D:

There we go.

Speaker E:

That's how I get a lot of things.

Speaker B:

Yeah, that's why Adams on the podcast right now.

Speaker D:

That's right.

Speaker E:

Hey, before I forget, how big do fire eels get again? Aren't they in the two to three foot, or are they four foot range?

Speaker D:

I've seen twelve to 16 inches on them.

Speaker E:

They're two foot range.

Speaker D:

Yeah, I would imagine it gets huge. They are ferocious eaters, man. I did it at him one time. I had a pretty good size fire eel somebody gave me. Kind of forgot that was in there. Threw in a bunch of neons, came back the next day and went, Where are my neons? And he was very happy.

Speaker E:

Because they're nocturnal.

Speaker B:

Fire heels get like 40 inches.

Speaker E:

40 inches? I thought they got in that four foot range.

Speaker D:

I'm glad the thing didn't grab me and drag me in the tank and make me as roommates.

Speaker B:

Yeah, that's what's been reported from big ones. But normally you'll get like a 32, 30 max.

Speaker E:

Okay. So, yeah, I kind of thought they were big, and I never sell them because they got so damn big and people couldn't they didn't realize that they always see the little cute six inch babies and they're like, oh, look at how cute they are. Yeah, they're looking at you. Yeah, they get huge.

Speaker D:

Yeah, they are cute.

Speaker E:

And they eat everything.

Speaker D:

So there again, there'd be another animal that probably ends up in big riches of Ohio fish rescue. What else you got?

Speaker B:

Let's go down and get some discord questions. Discord is our chat client, what we use for our entire group. So let me read some questions here that they've gathered. And if you like to join Discord, go to aquariumgyspodcast.com. On the bottom of the website, you'll find the Discord link. You can join us. It's on your easy to use. On your phone and you get instant results with these questions. It's not just us answering. There's also a bunch of other community experts that help out. And it's a real fantastic community we have here. So first question is what equipment for the basics are needed to start a fish tank minimum? So I think that this question is geared towards what is the easiest way I can start a tank? And we have a podcast planned for this in the future. We're going to have it called the ghetto aquarium. But without doing things, get out and you're willing to spend a little bit of money. I think the best way to start something pretty besides goldfish, because clearly that can get too big, too fast, is white clouds. I got a bunch of white clouds from you, Jimmy, and they came in small, but now they're nice and big. They don't need a heater. So all you would have is a sponge filter with an aerator that would generate the cycle for you. No heater whatsoever. And you can have natural lighting if you have something to do. Or just get a desk lamp to hold over. Aquarium, you can purchase at your local Walmart. They still have aquariums?

Speaker D:

Yeah, local Walmart has those nice little desk lamps for six, $7 in September when school starts. They have all these cute little lights that you could use for aquariums for next to nothing, to be honest with you. And that works fantastic. The thing with white clouds also, that the ones that Rob got are just regular basic white clouds, but now they have gold white clouds. They have long fin white clouds.

Speaker B:

They are, they have white clouds that climb on rocks.

Speaker D:

Yeah, exactly.

Speaker B:

Sorry, that's a commercial for rural people.

Speaker D:

Yeah, you guys are flipping me off.

Speaker B:

So the list would be you can get yourself maybe a 510 gallon, a quarter so tank, right? Sponge filter, air pump, dust lamp. There's your whole kit. So that's for the absolute basic tank right there. Done deal. And white clouds don't need heat because they're part of the carp family and.

Speaker E:

They'Re extinct in the wild. I'm pretty sure. No, I'm pretty sure that they dammed the river that they lived in in China. Because they live in China. They're from China in the mountains, like off tibet, I think. And I'm pretty sure that I read they were extinct in the wild.

Speaker B:

That is pretty sad information, if that's true. I'm not going to fact check you. I'm just going to go through more questions. So some of these questions we have in the list here are specific to an individual.

Speaker D:

Oh, yes, right.

Speaker B:

We have actually the most questions for Jimmy, but we have one for Adam here. So, Adam, how much wood would a wood chuck chuck if a wood chuck could chuck wood?

Speaker E:

Four.

Speaker D:

That question was for me, by the way.

Speaker B:

I'm going to check that off. That's been officially answered. Here we go. All right, the next question is how much was the fish that got eaten? This question is for robs. Yeah, it's exactly this much. All right, next question.

Speaker D:

No, back up the truck nutsack. All right, I know how much it is and I'm going to tell people if you don't admit stop it. Give us a range.

Speaker B:

Answer that phone, someone.

Speaker E:

Yeah, hang on one SEC.

Speaker D:

Oh, my Lord.

Speaker B:

Well, he answers the phone. So the fish that got eaten was a South American black arowana. So South American black arrangements in the last few couple of years have been becoming more and more common to see before. You never saw them, they just didn't happen. And if you heard of one, it was somebody that was on an Amazon trip, harvested their own and sent it back somehow illegally through customs. And it's not like they're an Asian marijuana. They're legal species is just no one had them. So I had a favor with someone at the time and I purchased them outright and they were way ridiculous of the price. Now, wholesale they go for like I even had people on discord say that they see them for like 650. It was much more than that back then. So that's all you're getting from me.

Speaker D:

Yeah, that's all we're getting from you, Rob. I think we should play that game. Like the price is right where we're going. Higher, higher 400, higher 500. All I know is when Rob's fish died, he cried. And I can attest I did. I can attest to that.

Speaker B:

I will say that, yeah, I hard cried. All right, next question. I'm a new fish keeper and I've amassed generations of guppies. How would I go about selling them and what are the general options for making profit? So, Jimmy, Adam, do you want to answer this?

Speaker E:

You're probably not, unless you have a specific strain and it looks pretty stuff like that. Guppies are cheap and most pet stores aren't going to pay you for guppies. They'll give you like, instore credit for fish food or that's what most of them will do is just instore credit. Guppies are cheaper fish that don't get a lot of respect. Now, if you go buying like an $80 pair of fish off Aquabet or something, you can resell the babies, but I don't know, they don't get the respect they deserve.

Speaker D:

They do.

Speaker E:

They're probably not going to make a lot of profit on it.

Speaker D:

Yeah, I agree with Adam to a point where unless you've got something that is better or bigger tailed than what they have, but again, if you put a sign on there saying locally raised guppies and they look great, you can demand a higher price than your cerealca guppies easily. Well, yeah, but it's got to be a quality product. You can't just be making what's the word I'm looking for? You can't be making ENDLER guppies feeder guppies.

Speaker B:

Yeah. You can't be selling antler guppies. It's just a frankly disgrace to the markets and no one's going to buy them, really.

Speaker D:

Right.

Speaker E:

That's why Rob's is selling the damn things.

Speaker B:

Yeah. I just find dim people on feeder fish and like, all right, $30. $30 of fish. Moving on.

Speaker D:

I have something to confess here. I just had a customer locally here that called me, got my number from somebody who says I'm looking for ENDLER guppies. And seriously, I thought I was being punked by Robbie and Adam. And I was kind of a dick wad to her because I thought, oh.

Speaker B:

This is are you serious?

Speaker D:

Yeah, I'm dead serious. I thought, well, this is one of tensa's friends. And they set them up and you know what? Met the gal, sold them to her. She was excited. We got her some Tigers endlers in just a couple of pair and she.

Speaker E:

Was garbage endlers few pairs.

Speaker D:

Oh, man. Yeah. Paid quite a premium price for them, too, by the way. knucklehead. But she was excited and ordered more, so don't tell her the crap, okay?

Speaker E:

Okay. She'd probably crap if I get if you showed her mind endless.

Speaker D:

Yeah. How many got left?

Speaker E:

I don't know. I got I don't I got like a 55 gallon tankful.

Speaker D:

Really?

Speaker E:

Yeah.

Speaker D:

You should set us some up again.

Speaker B:

Okay. Yeah. I mean, I wouldn't mind looking at feeder fish.

Speaker D:

Yeah.

Speaker E:

Okay.

Speaker B:

To answer the question, though, if you don't have a quality product and you can't sell online because that's really something, you can go to a pet store and they'll still buy guppies, but you're not going to get like the same retail prices. You have to understand that they're purchasing them for a hell of cheap price. They're buying guppies in general. If it's a good sized pets or buy the thousand guppies are really popular. They have to keep them in stock. So they're getting these things at quarter. So if you're going to be going there and saying, hey, I'll bring you bags of fresh, completely locally bred, healthy, good looking guppies, and I take a quarter apiece for them, they'll be all over it. Like, yeah, I'll do that with you. Bring them in whenever. And you can establish that type of market with a pet store. But if you have something quality, they're willing to pay for it. But if it's not quality, just lower your expectations.

Speaker D:

Right. Yeah. If you can go with a particular color that nobody else has. There are some extremely cool guppies out there. Now. I had some koi guppies that I got one time. I've been trying to order them for over the last two years. They were $9 wholesale a piece and they were flipping gorgeous. Came in, didn't do well, crashed on me, lost them. And I've been trying to get them replaced ever since. And people are asking them for him, but obviously the person that breeds them is helpful. Having trouble getting them to ship and live, I guess, is probably the way I should say it.

Speaker E:

So is that strain like, so how would you say so bred so fine that it needs such specific conditions that it just doesn't ship well at all?

Speaker D:

I totally agree with you, Adam. I'm thinking that's where you hit it right on the head there. And these guppies were not huge by any means or they're kind of, I want to say, like a miniature guppy. This particular strain that I got, I know there's some bigger ones out there. If you want to see some beautiful guppies that are demanding really big prices, check out aqua bid in the guppy section. I think Rob said earlier, thirty dollars to eighty dollars for a trio. A trio usually being a male and two females and usually being real young fish from three months to four or five months old. So you got to grow them up a little bit there. Again, guppies will have 25 to 45 babies, religiously and stuff. And then after you call, you're going to only have 20 to sell. You'll lose a few. So yeah, guppies are a wonderful thing if you can raise a quality product right out.

Speaker B:

So next question is what mixes well with what? And I think one of our first podcasts, we said that we're going to get out a compatibility charge and we never did. So I'm going to put out a statement that, darn it, Jimmy is going to punch me in the throat if I don't get that out pretty soon here. Yeah, but there are compatibility charts. You can go on Google, you can search fish compatibility charts and a lot of these have been dealt with, a lot of research. They are best guesses, because every fish is different. You can have a goldfish that'll start picking out an Oscar. It's just probability behavior from what they do in nature, what they've been seen doing, and practice from aquarists. So nothing's perfect. Clearly the other gentleman that we were just answering question with had goldfish with eels and that worked out, but for how long? So do your homework is the best way. But if you've never tried it before, keep it alone. If you can. If you can't use a compatibility chart.

Speaker D:

And then also get yourself a tank, an extra tank. So when you do have a bully, you can take them out and give them a time out. That way. We don't want to kill any fish, is what I'm getting at. A lot of people.

Speaker B:

You can also use those hang on the side baskets, right? Just for a quick time out.

Speaker D:

I've had a school of Tiger barbs where just one was a complete and uttered jerk. And usually it's a male and he just starts hammering on everybody because he's trying to keep his little ham together, keep everybody away and stuff. So definitely there's a jerk in every crowd and we know that. And so I've had angel fish that have been mean as heck. I've had oscars that are sweet as pie. You never know. So you just want to take a step back and look at the personality of that particular fish. And just because it says it's a nice fish doesn't necessarily mean this could be a nice fish.

Speaker B:

Well, debbie, you were telling me that you have axolotls and you didn't want one because you've had issues issues in the past with aggression. Just think you can have a time all corner, little basket, bad axolotl and put it in there for a while.

Speaker D:

It's our job here at the podcast is to just give you reasons to buy more tanks. And there's another good reason to buy another tank.

Speaker B:

There's another good reason, and we don't even have a tank sponsor yet. Everything in time. All right, well, what are the best plants for beginners? I'm going to take this one hornworth. I can't get it to stop growing. Maybe guppy grass has a hard second.

Speaker E:

Duckweed.

Speaker B:

Duckweed.

Speaker D:

There you go.

Speaker B:

Duckweed. Yeah, that's easy enough. Next question.

Speaker D:

Anacrus.

Speaker B:

Anacris, what's the best way to fill my tank and monitor the chemical levels? I think that is a loaded question. If it's salt water, you're going to want to use some sort of like an apex system is probably the best in the market to monitor your micronutrients. Otherwise, within aquarium tank, there are things that we just talked about. The raspberry pi you can do, but, you know, get yourself an API water test kit. Get good at it.

Speaker D:

Yep. And the thing is, if it's if it's out of your price range, a water change every week does wonders.

Speaker B:

Right. And don't spill beer in it like Jimmy does.

Speaker D:

I don't drink beer near my tanks.

Speaker E:

Maybe near rob's tanks.

Speaker D:

Yeah, there you go.

Speaker B:

Like you are right now.

Speaker D:

Right now I'm doing that. Yeah.

Speaker B:

All right. Why the f don't fish stores tell you that iridescent sharks are actually catfish?

Speaker E:

Because the shark name is cooler. Do you honestly think you could sell something that said iridescent catfish?

Speaker B:

No. Think about it. Because iridescent and catfish, like, you could put ugly ass googly eye catfish. Yeah, iridescent's shark does sound better.

Speaker E:

Yeah.

Speaker D:

And right back to marketing.

Speaker B:

There you go.

Speaker D:

One of our podcasts we did with our friends over there with the Reef aquarium, those guys are naming the corals just these crazy names like the Home wrecker because they cost.

Speaker E:

Oh, yeah, that one was funny.

Speaker D:

You know, and like you said, they come up with these great names because they are very cool when people look at it and go, oh, check that out. Oh, that's why it's called the home record. It's $600.

Speaker E:

Oh, no, I think it was more than that, wasn't it?

Speaker D:

Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker B:

I'm hearing $1,000 for a piece of it. That wasn't even a frag.

Speaker D:

Oh, my God.

Speaker E:

That was like, the size of your fingernail.

Speaker D:

That would be called the nutcracker at my house.

Speaker B:

It's not Christmas yet.

Speaker D:

Not yet. merry Christmas, everyone.

Speaker B:

All right, here's one. Now, we have on our discord a bunch of different characters. We're certainly blessed by having skilled individuals, new individuals, and one of them, one of my favorite people on Discord myrtlewood is our resident troll. When I say this, he cracks a lot of jokes to keep his fun and discord. And he wants to know, what's the air speed velocity of an unladed? And it shows here with a cross out of it. swallow. And instead that he wrote hatchet fish. So I'm assuming this is some sort of joke. What is the air speed velocity of an unladen? swallow is the normal sentence. But he's asking, what's the air speed velocity of an unladen hatchet fish?

Speaker D:

45 miles an hour.

Speaker E:

That's what I was going to say. Don't they fly out of the water pretty fast? Yeah.

Speaker B:

So I looked this up, and apparently there was a big guy that did it in the 90s doing a bunch of research on the hatchet fish because it's such a weird fish. It smells up at the top. It's got these side fins that work wings, and if unless you have your tank lid, duct tape, they're going to fly out. So these things fly feet, many feet. And according to some of his slow capture frameworks, these things go around 30 miles an hour.

Speaker D:

No way.

Speaker B:

Do they swim 30 miles an hour under the water? Probably not. When they launch out of the water, they're catching just air speed and hovering and who knows what. So that's my best guess. That's not an actual answer, but weird one.

Speaker E:

So, funny story about hatchet fish. I have found them from in my store. Jim, you remember how my store was set up, right?

Speaker D:

Okay.

Speaker E:

So I have found them almost. You know where the saltwater was in the back corner?

Speaker D:

Yes.

Speaker E:

And the freshwater fish were in that second row when you walk in, not the first row, but the second row?

Speaker D:

Yes.

Speaker E:

I found them on the saltwater wall, stuck and dried before.

Speaker D:

How many feet is that? That's got to be, oh, like 25ft. I was going to say 15, 20ft. Yeah. Middle.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker E:

And they've they've they went from that and they've flown across the store through the air and stuck to the wall and just can't get off the wall.

Speaker D:

Yeah, because they're flat. They're like a suction cup when they hit the wall. everybody's familiar with the marble hatchet. My personal favorite is the silver hatchet, which is usually a little bit bigger fish, a little more hearty fish, as far as I'm concerned. And I would find them six tanks over from where I put them because I didn't put the lid on tight or whatever. Six tanks over, which would probably be about six or 7ft in my warehouse and go, how the hell they get over here is beyond me. But then you'd find his friends on the floor, too, so sometimes they're not very accurate where they jump.

Speaker B:

Well, they just don't jump in the frying pan.

Speaker D:

Oh, that'd be delicious.

Speaker B:

Next question is, my fish are acting weird and different. What are some things I should check before assuming the worst?

Speaker E:

Oh, well, I would check their gills, because if their gills are bright red, there's obviously some there's decreased oxygen in the water.

Speaker D:

You said differently.

Speaker B:

Yeah, it doesn't say it's acting weird and different. So number one, I think the thing is to start off with is, what's the temperature? If they're cold or hot, even by a small minimal temperature, almost all fish act different. Even cold water fish are going to act different in 50 degrees and 60. So did the temperature change? Your heater and plug would be the number one thing I would go to.

Speaker E:

Are they lying on the bottom because, you know, they are being electrocuted by their stray electricity?

Speaker B:

Exactly. Or, you know, are they on the top of the water gas bank? Did you forget to plug in your aerator stone? Get clogged. Right? Did your airstone get clogged? Is your filter not working? What's going on there? Are they wiggling weird? Maybe they're in labor and there's a library and you're on the trying to give birth, and you're just being a creeper staring at them.

Speaker D:

Do they have ick?

Speaker B:

Do they look like you rolled them in salt and pepper?

Speaker D:

Right. I raised a lot of angel fish, and I could tell when my angel fish weren't doing well, because then normally you go up to the tank and they'd greet you and you'd feed them. They eat like pigs, but you can walk by one tank. And when angel fish gets sick, and I cannot tell you why, they will turn their back to you and kind of go to the back of the tank with their back tail to you and not pay any attention to you. And if you walk by a tank of angel fish and they are acting like that there is something wrong, they're going to come down with a disease, or they already have a disease. So the first thing I would do is check for disease. I would check for electricity, airstones, temperature. There's so many things that you can check. But I tell you, the longer you're in the business, the quicker it is to pick that stuff up.

Speaker B:

Now, I taught debbie how to check for electricity because he's making a big fish rack. I have nine tanks on my fish rack, and I electrocute myself. So what we did in his basement daddy, take off your socks and juice or put your finger in there, make sure you have a nice contact with the cement floor, and then touch your aquarium, otherwise you might not get shocked. Seemed to work out. We did electrical training.

Speaker D:

Electrical training. It also works great for sterilization. We've been trying to get Adam to do it for years, but he's got four kids and he keeps on going.

Speaker B:

Just keeps on going.

Speaker C:

If that's how that works. I need to get home stat.

Speaker D:

Yeah, I'll send you two cracked heaters. I might have some still.

Speaker C:

Okay, great.

Speaker B:

Excellent. What is a good nano fish? First to get for either a small aquarium or a large school of fish?

Speaker E:

White clouds are always a nice little fish tank. Little fish. I like the white clouds.

Speaker B:

There are so many. We just got to pick one.

Speaker D:

Ember tetris.

Speaker B:

I'm going to pick rummy nose. Rummy nose? Project Pyayiba.

Speaker C:

Yeah, I'm definitely hard nose. Beautiful fish.

Speaker B:

Well, you got to pick something different. So we each get one here. Come on now. Don't say an alert. I'll stab you.

Speaker D:

Betty White.

Speaker C:

Yeah, I would go with a serpent tetra.

Speaker B:

There you go. See, there's so many. You just start going down the tetra line there's. boro line. It's a collection. Now, if you do want them to school, try to stick to one species normally interested in crossing species won't give you a school. So just like mine. I have 100 rummy nose in my tank. They school nicely.

Speaker D:

I've got a question. I get to ask a question. I've heard talk in the last two weeks about Tucan tucan tattoo can address. I've been doing this for freaking 30 years. I've never seen them. What are they?

Speaker E:

They're brand new.

Speaker B:

They're not necessarily brand new. They're pretty recent.

Speaker D:

Are they renamed something that they renamed to make it sound cool?

Speaker B:

They found batches in the 60s, but they just never hit the aquarium trade. So now that they're trying to research what could be farmed, what's a sustainable, good looking fish like? Yeah, these definitely I don't know what haven't been picked up before, but they're certainly there.

Speaker D:

Yeah, I see them on my list now. I've never seen them on the list up until the last month or two. I'm assuming they look like it must be brightly colored.

Speaker B:

Well, I think you just got confused because you always look in your cereal cabinet and you see that two can on the box and you just eat those.

Speaker D:

Those are delicious.

Speaker B:

They look like actually, Jim, you know what they look like?

Speaker D:

Like what?

Speaker E:

They look like a penguin tetra, to be quite honest.

Speaker D:

Oh, really?

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker E:

Except instead of for a penguin tetra, they got a little bit of gold right over their eye and like, quarter over their body right after their gills.

Speaker D:

That is way cool. I forget about the penguin tetra. I haven't sold penguin tetras in years. I had a couple of customers that just loved them. Just the way the black stripe goes on them, their tail looks almost like a hockey stick. And that's another great thing to have that most people do not have in their tanks. If you get hold of some penguin tetris, they're a wonderful fish to have in your tanks.

Speaker B:

I also call them hockey stick tetris.

Speaker D:

Absolutely.

Speaker B:

What are some of the more interesting I'm going to skip this joint question. Interesting nano. I can't skip it. Fragato rainbows. Look them up.

Speaker E:

They play.

Speaker B:

They have weird fins. They dip, dive, and duck. They're probably one of the most active, fun nanofish besides schooling white clouds for speed purposes, do some fish actually get unhappy when their friend dies? For example, I have two juvenile bosomi rainbows. One died unexpectedly. Just wondering if I should get another rainbow or if he'll be all right. There are a whole line of people, and they're not fish people, that believe that these animals do not carry emotion, and that is frankly wrong. It's just like we talked with Scott. We can measure stress in a fish biologically. So why in the world couldn't we measure stress if a friend dies and they frankly do? I've had a pair of basami rainbows. Male passed away, and I had to get another one because it just sat in the corner alone. Once I put another one in there, it was two days, and they were schooling. It was out of the corner, got color again. They frankly do. And certainly you can message Scott from the New England Aquarium. I think we have contact with him on discord, and he was doing a lot of research on testing for stress, and there should be ways you can do it in your own aquarium, but they do.

Speaker E:

Well, aren't they basically schooling fish like bosmani's? Don't they need company?

Speaker B:

They are, yes.

Speaker E:

Okay, here's the nice, easy way to do it. Big ass cichlids. That's a duck anyways. Big cichlids for the most part, you get a pear, like an oscars. You get one because oscars don't care. The bigger cichlids, they don't really care. A lot of these bigger cichlids have to form parabons, and that's a whole other thing. So you got to get like, six or eight frontos. I'm just trying to remember what who.

Speaker B:

Started off the aquarium with. It got one neon tattoo. How the world's that work?

Speaker E:

Yeah, I mean, it's just going to die.

Speaker B:

Probably not. Well, but if you get one African butterfish, there are cork in the corner of the tank, and they don't care. Yeah, but dwarf a dwarf karami they're happy to be alone.

Speaker E:

Yeah, but it's dependent on the fish. I mean, each fish is different. So you need to research your fish and go, okay, if you were to go to my store when I had it and be like, I just want one D and tetra, I'd call you a dummy, and I'd say, go buy somewhere else. Yeah. They have to have friends. So each fish is different, and you have to treat each fish differently. Like, some people like to be in.

Speaker B:

A corner like robs, and some people don't. It's my meditation corner. All right, man. All right, next question. If parameters are consistent, ammonia zero nitrate. Zero nitrate. You know, zero five in a planted tank. When in the world should I do water changes since my nitrates aren't changing to dangerous levels? And you, sir, are the perfect candidate for not ever changing your water. If you're testing your water and it's continually the same, you have successfully made a perfect ratio of fish to plants, and your tank is able to cycle without a water change. Now, that being said, I still recommend doing it every so often, every blue moon, because the micronutrients in your water do not replenish, such as calcium. You're not going to get that back in the water, so you would have to add supplements. That's really your only risk in those situations. But there are many people that advocate not having to change the water. I in my own tank. I have a 125 gallon tall tank with a large community. I've told you about my rummy nose tetris, and I didn't do a water change in that for nine months. That's a long time. I don't recommend doing that. It was more of my research. I probably in that tank because it was so heavily planted. Do one every four months just for calcium.

Speaker C:

I went six on my guppy tank. Heavily planted. I shouldn't have, but I did.

Speaker B:

Yeah, I mean, that's that's really what you need to look out for, especially if you're they're breeding. Baby fish need calcium to grow, but otherwise you've done it. Congratulations. Your planted tank is successful. All right, Jim, there's a question for you, buddy.

Speaker D:

What's that for?

Speaker B:

Jim, if you want to lose $8,000 but don't like guppies, what other fish should I try?

Speaker D:

I would go out and immediately buy 80 zebra plecos. Immediately. They're only 110 and $30 a piece. But if you buy 80, maybe you'll get them down to $100 for you. And I would immediately throw them in one tank, turn off the light, and just walk away.

Speaker B:

And just to start the cycle, pee in the tank.

Speaker D:

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. There's a lot of ways to lose money. I definitely am the king of losing money. I will guarantee you that. But, yeah, Rob's called me up here, I don't know, a month ago and said, hey, we should go out and buy some zebra plecos. And what was my answer? Thank you? No. Why?

Speaker E:

Zebra plecos aren't that hard.

Speaker B:

Actually, I thought you hung up on me for a second.

Speaker D:

Yeah, no, they're not that hard. But when when you go out and consider I mean, they only have three, five, seven babies at a crack, then you have to get them up to sizeable sale to sell them. It's a lot of work for a few, but there's people that are very successful in doing it and stuff. And like our friend Steve or bickie from Angels plus, he would rather sell you one fish at $200 and sell you 100 fish at a dollar any day of. The week. So, I mean, a lot of people, if you've got the time and the effort and you want to raise something really cool, zebra plecos are much fun. But I would not put anything in with zebra plecos. I've had two and a half inch zebra plecos with some guppies, and guppies start picking on them for some reason, so I would only do zebra.

Speaker B:

So here's a fun fact. jimmy's placo cursed. Jimmy has not been able to get placo's breeding for him ever.

Speaker D:

No, I've had just sporadic success and most of it was over in my warehouse where I had different water parameters and yet robbie's around the block money.

Speaker B:

And time and Rob breed Bristol nose.

Speaker D:

Oh, yeah. I've spent a ton of money last week. I bought in some red bristles plecos just because I wanted to lose some more money. Right now I've got red bristols plecos and hopefully they're still alive when Robbie gets back so I can show them.

Speaker B:

And maybe steal them from you so I can breed them.

Speaker D:

No, not going to happen. Yeah, no. I'm going to kill myself.

Speaker B:

All right, planted tank. What is the best steps once you have hair algae and other algae has become an issue? How do you deal with the massive hair algae problem?

Speaker D:

Oh, you've got that.

Speaker B:

I had that problem worse than anybody. And it was not just regular string hair algae, but black beard algae. And I decided I have two options. I can chemical treat them or fight with it, that type of mix, or I can try to find what species eradicate that stuff, what likes to find it and just mow it down for lunch. So molly's American flagfish, but bar none, the best species that was most compatible with a large nano variety aquarium was Siamese algae eaters. True siamese algae eaters. These things can grow three inches, even four sometimes for big females. But they are extremely docile and they're human lawn mowers. If you have hair algae, black beard algae, they will clean every score inch of your tank. I put in ten in my tank and they had the entire tank cleaned, mode and eradicated. I still see maybe tiny like one or two bits of black beard algae pop up here and there, but they make it disappear within the day. It's incredible to watch these fish. On top of that, you can also use a mono shrimp. They do a really great job of mowing it as well. But I really rely on those fish and shrimp to take care of that problem for me, and they really, really have. I can help boost the problem with not boost the problem, help lower the problem with things like fluval but products. But the best way, in my opinion, is trying to get those species in your tank. Other than that, you have to use hydrogen peroxide treatments with a needle, trying to hit every one of them that keep coming. It's like playing whacka mole. It's not laser beam. Tried laser beam after we had that one with Sean. Did not work. Apparently, the laser beam gets eaten, the light gets eaten by the black color on the black beard algae. I killed a snail. I did not kill the black beard algae with the light. But yeah, certainly get yourself some Siamese algae eaters. I got a couple that I just move around in case I see it pop up and they disappear and the fish go back to the original tank. It works out really well for me. All right, what are some of the tools that you guys use in your tank that you never thought you would ever need?

Speaker C:

Turkey baster.

Speaker B:

Turkey baster.

Speaker C:

Turkey baster.

Speaker B:

I concur with that one.

Speaker E:

Yeah, I would agree with that one, too.

Speaker D:

Yeah, I like that, too.

Speaker B:

And you can use it for a coffee animal later.

Speaker C:

It's fantastic.

Speaker D:

You're saying, Jimmy, the one thing I use to use a lot, I don't anymore. But the coffee filters, the ones that have a little steel mesh on it, those worked great for hatching brine shrimp and putting them in there, rinsing them off, because it's such a fine, fine mesh. So coffee filter is something I never would have thought I would ever use. I'm not talking about the paper coffee filters, but the little plastic ones with the screen inside of it.

Speaker B:

All right, next question. Will I ever find love in discord? You will. What aquarium fish would you eat? All right, Adam, what would you eat?

Speaker E:

Wait, why?

Speaker B:

We didn't ask why. They just want to know. Our audience demands these things. If you had to eat an aquarium fish, which one would you eat?

Speaker E:

Probably a stingray.

Speaker B:

A stingray? Out of all the fish, that's when the one you would eat.

Speaker E:

Well, that's going to have the best meat on it.

Speaker B:

How about you, Jimmy?

Speaker D:

Piranha.

Speaker E:

I've heard those are good, too.

Speaker D:

Piranhas are highly sought after in the Amazon. They hunt them, they fish them and they eat them. And obviously I go, Oscar.

Speaker B:

That's like Florida sunfish. Hard to eat sunfish in Minnesota. How about you, dabby?

Speaker C:

I would go axel auto.

Speaker B:

Axel auto? You want to slimy?

Speaker C:

Have you seen them deep fried on a sandwich? Okay, so you can't even tell what they are. And you see the little map we.

Speaker B:

Were talking, it was not peta. Oh, no. Yeah, we were talking with your wife last night and she didn't know that there was colors because you guys got a black sacks a lot. So we're telling her there's purple, pink, green, blue glow in the darkness of your mind. I said, yeah, there's also golden. And I turn my phone towards her and show her like, two deep fried axle models on a stick in China. Well, okay.

Speaker C:

So disturbed.

Speaker D:

Everybody here on this podcast is disturbed, if you ask me. I don't know.

Speaker B:

We try our best.

Speaker E:

You're saying, Adam, they eat everything over there, which is why they have coronavirus. They said that they now think that came from, like, pangolin and bats.

Speaker B:

Oh, bath soup.

Speaker E:

Yeah. Penguins. So I'm kind of rooting for the penguins on this one.

Speaker B:

Lovely. So the next question is, knowing what fish you like, would you rather have it cooked or raw? I go cooked.

Speaker D:

Cooked. It is litten season. I want mine cooked also.

Speaker B:

And you said deep fried.

Speaker C:

Deep fried. Everything is better.

Speaker B:

Deepfrod America.

Speaker C:

We're in the South America.

Speaker D:

Diabetes.

Speaker B:

All right, so what's an easy to grow plant to propagate and sell? Now, I've had a lot of issues with this. I'd say my favorite would be Red ludwig. It grows at a nice rapid rate with a lot of light, and you can bundle it up real easy to try to sell, either to ship out or maybe a small Pat Sterling will take it from you if you grow it live.

Speaker D:

I've got customers continuously asking for decent java, moss and guppy grass. And our friends over in West parkland, North Dakota, get in guppy grass from somewhere down south. She'll get in 40 or 50 different bags of it, and it's gone in two days.

Speaker B:

I think the biggest issue I have with that is how to sell it. And I see that most people online, they'll sell it in, like, baseball sizes.

Speaker D:

Yeah, it's softball. It's just all grouped in a small bag. And most people take, like, a plastic one cup container and just kind of gently put it in there. And that's kind of how much you'll get for your $10.

Speaker C:

And if they were talking about how, the easiest way that I found to do it is to take the steel mesh, like the stainless steel mesh, and wrap it around, take a little bit of fishing string and wrap it around the steel mesh, and it'll propagate right off of that.

Speaker B:

Wow. I never thought of that before.

Speaker C:

And you drop it right down on the tank.

Speaker D:

That is a good idea.

Speaker B:

All right, Jimmy, how do you tell exactly when a library will give birth? Not looking at the gravity spot method. It says in quotations, not gravity.

Speaker D:

Well, I mean, what I normally like to do is I like to view the fish from the top, looking from the top down to see how large of a belly it has on it. We used to raise guppies commercially for a long time. We finally had some success by using three different things that I'd been told by people of what to do and what worked for me, and I'll share this with people. We were raising probably three to 500 guppies a day. And what we would do is we had so many guppies that we would raise up our guppies ourselves just to sell. And then the extra guppies we had, we sell them as feeder guppies. So what I'd like to do is viewing them from the top is once they look like they've swallowed a small marble, and that's when you want to isolate that female away from everybody else and get them to release their babies. When you put them in those small plastic boxes, which a lot of people love and have success with, a lot of times that will stress them out and you'll see that they'll just poop out a whole bunch of dead babies. And that's just a really sad thing to see. So stress will not help the guppy at all. What I'd like to do, what we did is we had 9300 gallon vats lined up in our warehouse and I bought those pop up spring hampers and we put two we put in three hampers per 300 gallon tank. And in each hamper we had 75 females and 25 males. So there's 100 fish in there. And what happened is that you have to keep the tank covered up so it's dark, unfortunately. And what we would do is we open it up every morning and first thing we do is we throw food in for the adults in those hampers. But when they're in these hampers, it's wide enough so the babies can swim out and so all the babies will be right on top. And you would just take a large ten inch net and just scoop the top. And that was my favorite thing I did in all my years of raising fish. My favorite thing to do was to go downstairs into my warehouse and collect baby guppies all morning long. I spent two or 3 hours doing it and I loved it.

Speaker B:

Pretty great watching you Jimmy, do that because you just point out a big female and they're like, oh, that one's dummy thick and then that one's going to release tomorrow. Sure thing. It did.

Speaker D:

Just like anything else, if you spend enough time. We're in a rural community out here, there's a lot of people raising cattle, horses. You'll have a good horse person, a good cattle person, say she's going to go into labor here in the next couple of hours just by observing how they're acting. A lot of times a female guppy will go off to a corner of the tank or into the weeds just so she'll be left alone from the other fish and stuff. Where we had success is in these 300 gallon vats. If we did not keep those vats closed up tight from light, then they would eat the babies. Even though the babies could swim, they're stupid. They swim back in to see mom and dad and they get eaten up. So once we that was the third piece to my puzzle is somebody says, you got to keep that covered up tight. And then when you open it up, you got to scoop real fast to get them out there. And you always still don't catch them all, but you'll get a good majority of them. Here's another trick that we learned from another person. We would take a five by seven foot piece of styrofoam that you buy at your local menards or Home depot, and we would lay that on top of the 300 gallon cattle trough thing, and we would take a small light bulb, kind of like a two watt light bulb, like a Christmas light bulb. We would drill a small hole in the styrofoam, and we put the light bulb way away from the adults, which were on the other end of the tank. And for some reason, the babies come to that light. And so when you open up that tank in the morning, just you flip up the the five by seven piece of styrofoam and just leaning it up against a wall. Majority of the babies are all kind of at the end where that light was. And so, like I said, we we learned all these tricks from different breeders and stuff, and that's what worked for me. So there's nothing more satisfying than having guppies. Guppies, guppies. I tell you, one of my favorite projects they ever did.

Speaker B:

So, next question. Best type of natural decoration is to go in the tank. Ones that look natural, add to the aesthetics, and even add to the water quality. Is it driftwood? chola plants? What do you guys recommend?

Speaker E:

Personal.

Speaker D:

That's personal preference.

Speaker B:

Well, I think what's the best type of natural decoration that add to water quality?

Speaker E:

Oh, driftwood.

Speaker B:

I got to go to driftwood as well. You can do like, what do they call them, those little pine cones? Jimmy, do you remember those?

Speaker D:

Alder cones?

Speaker B:

Yeah, alder cones. Those don't last long. They'll decay, but I think they look pretty.

Speaker D:

Yeah, I love driftwood. As long as you don't have somebody in the tank eating the driftwood. We just saw what happened to my 90 gallon tank over at my house. We constantly had the driftwood leaching after, what, five years? My tank looks like a brackish tank, it's so dark. And what we found out is that we had a couple of plecos in there, and they're constantly chewing on the driftwood. And once we took the plecos out of there, the driftwood kind of seals itself back up, and the water now is crystal clear. And that was a thing that we learned from Thai. Our buddy ty Tall food, stopped in and said, try taking them out and see if that helps, because I'm going, why is my wood still leaching out after five years being in the tank?

Speaker B:

And just to note that Jimmy gave me that Blake out and then immediately read the next day you saw in your face.

Speaker D:

Yeah, it did. It was what, two and a half days, and you had eggs?

Speaker B:

Oh, yeah. It was immediately the next day that they actually had eggs. What things do you wish you had known about tank care and fish in general? That would have saved you lots of trouble in the long run. I'm going to let dabby answer this one.

Speaker C:

Yeah. So if I can give you one piece of advice, if you are starting up a fish room, order the damn bulkheads. Do not try and DIY them. It is a horrible experience. It works in the end. And you may save $0.50. Just order the bulkheads.

Speaker B:

So to explain this, you saw some videos online, a bunch of different giving with cheap ways to make bulkheads. Essentially you took two pvc, or they're just adapters, which had what, an 8th of an inch lip on them. And that's what they expected you to put a gasket on and fit correctly, much less they didn't actually seal flush. So it was an actual nightmare getting these things. We had to dremel each and every one of these things just to get them to fit. We had to cut the tips off because they wouldn't screw in flush. And then when we got them in, the gaskets would rip because they're not the correct made flat gaskets for these things. They would warp and pop. But after pulling teeth, we ended up paying one dollars more just ordering them online and got them to work, but certainly wasn't a pretty process. It added probably a half a day to our work.

Speaker C:

Yeah, half a day easy.

Speaker D:

I totally agree because I've done the exact same thing because we had to do 100 of them. We ended up piecing four different pieces of pvc together to make the bulkhead and we couldn't get them to line properly. Same thing with the gaskets. So I totally agree. You guys are on spot there.

Speaker B:

Any recommendations from Adam or you for other things that you would have learned?

Speaker E:

Heaters.

Speaker B:

What about heaters?

Speaker E:

They all suck. They just suck. I have lost more expensive fish to heaters and more of my safe, quote unquote, favorite fish to heaters. And I've had more freaking problems with heaters than with anything else. And then you're all, oh, look at my tank. You get your tank all beautiful. You get plate size discus. You're going to breed them and then they die. You get L 46, zebra, platos, the heater shot, and then they die. I mean, heaters kill more stuff. That's my main thing.

Speaker B:

Get yourself a titanium grounding rod.

Speaker E:

Well, yeah, that's what taught me.

Speaker B:

Myself one, actually, because I was starting to get a little bit of zap from my brand new heater. So I'm just done with it and I'm going to get the rod.

Speaker D:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

All right. Next question would be plant seeds from wish. Are they a scam? Are they even real? What are the best ways to grow immersed underwater? And you know what, I've been hearing this from a lot of people. I decided to get myself some seeds. So I'm going to let you guys know. I ordered a couple of different packs from a wish of different. I literally got what's it called, the assortment it's a big pack full of I think it's like eight, nine different plants. So what I'm going to do is I'm going to ignore all the recommendations online on all time because there's a lot of line. And I'm going to grow these just like I was taught in elementary school. So in elementary school, I was taught to take a ziplock sandwich bag, take a nap wet napkin or a wet paper towel, put it in there, and I mean stopping wet. You put the seed into the napkin, and then you hide the entire ziploc bag with bean inside of it in a warm, dark place. And in two days, you'll have an entire sprouter little plant out of your bean. I want to do these to all these aquarium seeds, sprout them, get a tote with a grow light and see what happens. Maybe they'll grow in water, maybe they won't. But I'm going to put each one of these in water. I'm going to sprout them first, and I'll get back to you in a podcast on this.

Speaker D:

It'D be about three months till they get here, but we'll get back to you.

Speaker B:

Oh, they're here. I just got to get it done.

Speaker D:

What?

Speaker B:

They just came in. I ordered them. I heard about the criminal virus, and, like, I need it now. That's a good way to get it right. So next question. Is the best bottom feeder for an Oscar or large cyclin tank? Also, what type of plants would work well with the South African cichlids? South American cichlids? Jimmy and I found a long time ago on more of a secrets list, this monster, cory, I'm going to butcher the name Broccius. I can't remember what it was. It's like a five inch corridora.

Speaker E:

Oh, the broken species.

Speaker D:

It's broken. Yes.

Speaker B:

Thank you. And literally, you'll see me in pesters that we've been labeled cory. And they're a beautiful corridor. They look like a bronze corridor, but they're just massive. And because of the size, they're not picked on like the other cichlids are in a tank. So they're safe for oscars. African cichlids, south American cichlids, that's really the species I recommend besides doing loaches, because loaches are yoyo loaches, tiger loaches, even clown loaches. If you can get them a nice size, those are always good ones that feed on the bottom. And as far as plants for South American cichlid, I think the most beautiful thing personally are swords. Anytime you get a beautiful cichlid going through your melon swords, but that's just a personal preference. I would contact some of the Facebook group, south American cyclist form. They have such specialized requirements for a lot of these South American cichlids. I couldn't really tell you. Besides, I've really had success with that in the past.

Speaker E:

Well, aren't a lot of South Americans going to dig them up anyway?

Speaker D:

Yeah, that's what I was thinking, too.

Speaker E:

Like your geophagus, your convicts, basically all your South Americans, all of your sick woods in general are going to dig up their plants. I was thinking for that, like java moss or willow moss or something, a moss type that you could put on rocks that it'll be there.

Speaker B:

Well, I think that's why I had such luck with Melons, because the melons sorts that I had were so big. There's no way they can possibly have unless they're digging to the complete bottom of the tank and they're a geocyclic.

Speaker E:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Anyhow, next question is best type of co2 systems. So essentially, from what I've seen, there's like three different types. You can DIY your own using baking soda method in a Seven Up bottle with some tubes and gaskets. You can get the gaskets cheap on ebay or Amazon. Method two would be buying some pre done co2 kits. You can get them from Fluville and they come with replaceable canisters that you can continually purchase. And it's like literally taking your wallet and letting on fire.

Speaker D:

It's pretty accurate.

Speaker B:

If you buy a new iphone, like you have to have a new iphone every single year. That's probably for you. You can afford those co2 systems. But for the rest of us, we go to our local weld shops. You go to a welding shop where you can get canisters of co2. You can either rent the canister or you can purchase a canister and have them refilled there for really cheap. And just purchasing this intended for industrial use canister and then just hook up your own adapters is the cheapest way to get large amounts of co2. That's how pet stores do it. If they're having co2 injector systems, they're getting these things from welding shops because it cost them 510 bucks to refill their tank they purchased.

Speaker E:

That's not what I use my co2 unit for, but okay, what do you use yours for?

Speaker D:

Adam?

Speaker E:

You remember Jim?

Speaker C:

I think he was sticking his hands and all.

Speaker D:

No, that's how he used to adam sold frozen rodents.

Speaker E:

I used to breed rodents.

Speaker D:

Anyway, when the rodents needed to go to sleep, he'd co2 them and then put him in and he'd put them in the freezer. Because some people, snake people or reptile people in general are nuts. But anyway, I will agree.

Speaker E:

Okay. Rats know when you're going to kill them. Mice don't. Like, there is a difference in intelligence level with rats and mice.

Speaker D:

Rats are super smart.

Speaker E:

Yeah.

Speaker D:

And super destructive.

Speaker B:

Adams here.

Speaker E:

No, I had favorites that I wouldn't kill, but that's not the problem.

Speaker D:

Like children. My God, you're cute.

Speaker B:

You squeaked at me, you live.

Speaker E:

But anyways, it's just easier when you're breeding large numbers of rats and mice to put them all in a box, all the ones that you're going to wipe out that day and put a co2 unit and just put the lid on the box and turn on the co2 unit. It's the most humane way to kill them that I knew and know how to do.

Speaker D:

Yeah. And backing up Adam on this, I can tell you on two different hands how many people I know that have had a $4 rat kill their $300 snake. I'm not kidding you. A rat will kill I mean, you can throw a live rat with a seven foot snake and you'll come back and the rat sitting top of the snake and the snake is dead. Yes.

Speaker E:

Just chewed the crap out of it. I've seen them kill cobras.

Speaker D:

Yeah. And so most people want to feed a dead rodent and for two reasons. First reason we just talked about, so they don't hurt their, their prized possession. Second one is, is when, when you throw rats in seriously, you throw rats into your snake or, or your, your other animals that are going to eat them, then you're teaching them to strike whatever's moving. Well, you know what? The next time there's something moving in their cage is probably your damn hand. And my buddy Mark, don't quit putting.

Speaker B:

On rat gloves, all right? Don't put googly eyes and a sock. It's going to look like the jackass movies.

Speaker D:

Yeah. Let me tell you a story real quick. So I was over in Bamidji, Minnesota at my friend's pet store, which is now closed, but it's called Friendly fins. And Mark, my buddy, you heard me talk about Mark before, big guy, he's about the size of Robbie. I just got there to deliver fish one day and stuff. And randy, he had a veterinarian on staff that he shared the building with. And randy came out the building with this look on his face like the place was on fire. He goes, Come help me. I go, what? He goes, Tiny is wrapped around mark's arm. And so I ran into the pet store. Now, Tiny was his eleven foot snake. And this snake was very docile. He would take it to schools and.

Speaker B:

Kind of like how you name a dog with Mr.

Speaker D:

Right. But this snake tails.

Speaker B:

Lucky.

Speaker D:

Yeah, exactly. So this snake was very docile. He took it into school, schools, kids handle it. And whatnot what happened is that he fed a live food all the time. But this particular day, the snake is shedding and also it's blue. Yeah. And it can't see very well out of its eyes because of the shed over the eyes. And he had fed the snake and then the snake pooped and he reached in and he had rubber gloves on, white rubber gloves. He reaches in to grab that poop and the snake struck, swallowed his thumb and wrapped around his arm. And his arm was black. It wasn't blue, it was black. And this snake took for a second, I thought, we're going to have to cut his head off to get it off mark's arm. It was probably about 110 pound snake. The look on mark's face was of terror. And randy said, I got a quick idea because the three of us are trying to pull the snake off, and there's no way we're getting the snake off. So randy the veterinarian took off, came back with a bottle of hydrogen peroxide, poured it in the snake's mouth, he.

Speaker E:

Released yes, that's what I was going to say. Either alcohol works or water.

Speaker D:

He put it on, poured in their mouth.

Speaker B:

It works the same way with jeffer and Jimmy. He'll just let you go?

Speaker D:

That's right. I'll let you out of the headlock once you buy me a drink. Absolutely, man.

Speaker B:

I mean, that's the last time I do hot yoga and for domestic.

Speaker D:

That's right. So co2 is a wonderful thing for other things and plants.

Speaker E:

Yes.

Speaker B:

All right, next question. How do I add or change substrate materials in the tank that's already set up? The current set up is gravel, sandbased, and looking to go on more natural plants. Goal is to add guppies in for breeding 20 gallon bristle nose, one alone, surviving the shredwar frogging, some ramshorns. Number one, if you want to breed fish, there's too many other fish in the tank. Number two, you want to transition to a different gravel. Why? Just because you add plants and someone told you you can't use sand or gravel?

Speaker D:

Sand sucks.

Speaker B:

Well, you can use it. So what I'd recommend is, instead of switching out your substrate, because the only way to successfully switch out your substrate is starting over, your substrate is what holds the cycle besides your filter. So if you don't have a nice filter, odds are you're going to switch out the substrate. You're going to have issues with your fish getting stuff from their gills, taking out all the good biological bacteria. So the only way to do it successfully and safely is starting over. So instead of that, go online, go to amazon.com, purchase fertilizer tabs. You can get a bunch of them. Just line the bottom of your tank and take tweezers and add the fertilizer tabs into your substrate. And that adds essentially, black dirt into your tank. So you've can use the sand, you can use the gravel bases, as long as it's a mix and go with more natural plants. And there's plants like Jimmy said before, that you don't have to root that you can put in there regardless. But if you want rooting plants, I have only sand in my tank, and all I use is these taps, and it works great. So give that a go. Hopefully that helps you out.

Speaker E:

Also, the beta is going to kill the guppies.

Speaker B:

He wants to breed guppies, and he has a bunch of different other fishing, especially the frogs alone. The frogs could eat the guppies.

Speaker E:

Yeah, the dwarf frog will eat the guppies and the guppy babies, but well, no, if this is the dwarf frog, they only get like, an inch and a half, two inches.

Speaker B:

It could be a clawed frog, I don't know.

Speaker E:

Yeah, but the beta. Will kill the guppies because they got that flowing. fins and betas just get pissy sometimes with things.

Speaker B:

So hopefully that answers. The next one is specifically for Jimmy. He added a picture. And I'll explain this picture to you, Jimmy. Actually, I have control of jimmy's computer right now, so I can actually pull up the picture so Jimmy can look at this. I think that'll be the best way to get this question answered. See that car, Jimmy?

Speaker D:

Yes.

Speaker B:

All right. How many sponge filters does Jim think I can make up?

Speaker D:

Oh, my God.

Speaker B:

Are those listening on the podcast? It kind of looks like a 1960s chevy chevell.

Speaker D:

Yeah, two door. Let me see.

Speaker B:

The back seat is going to be a little crimped. I'm thinking you can get, what, 120 out of those seats?

Speaker D:

Yeah, I'm getting 75 out of the front, maybe 50 out of the back. Yeah, about 125.

Speaker B:

Last 50 can be thin. I mean, it depends what condition it is.

Speaker D:

And there again, it's an old car. The backseat. I probably wouldn't even use the sponge from bacteria because it's probably all nasty.

Speaker B:

It's probably filled with biological bacteria.

Speaker D:

There you go. Exactly. It's probably already filled with something nasty, and we don't want that floating around in your tanks. Now, for you cheap asses out there that give me crap about this, I buy all my foam from the foam people now that I have money, so I don't have to give it.

Speaker C:

Just so happens that the car manufacturers buy it from the same place he buys it from.

Speaker D:

Pretty much for half the price. I hope you all die in your sleep.

Speaker B:

Well, on that note, that brings us to the end of our questions. So, guys, if you got more questions for us, we answer questions on every podcast that you guys send us emails. You can leave a voicemail. We played right on the podcast for us. coriander Podcast.com part of the website. You find all our info. And the guy that emailed us, that Phil gentleman with the giant community tank and eel, I called him. Within two minutes of the email, I was editing the podcast. He sent me the message, and he was tickled pink that I gave him a call so fast. He could have never expected that. We're really responsive. It's not going to last forever. Our podcast is growing exponentially. And until we can't, we're going to answer everything you try to throw at us.

Speaker D:

There's also a law against stalking, Rod.

Speaker B:

No, he stalked me and then I.

Speaker D:

Received oh, you stocked him back?

Speaker B:

I did. That's a mutual bond. That's why I'm here with gabby. He was a stalker of mine.

Speaker D:

There you go. You never know, your stalker might turn into your best friend.

Speaker B:

He did have a banjo and said I had a pretty mouth. But we'll get to that.

Speaker D:

For everybody listening.

Speaker B:

No, Adam, don't explain that joke.

Speaker D:

Jimmy. No, I'm just going to say adam and I have been sending him all kinds of banjo stuff and ask him if he can squeal like a pig, stuff like that and stuff.

Speaker C:

Oh, he did, did he?

Speaker D:

Wow.

Speaker B:

Enjoy. After we got the tanks done, you're.

Speaker D:

Going to come back and change, man.

Speaker B:

All right, guys, I'll see you in the next podcast in Minnesota and studio B with Jimmy and I wish you guys a great week. And I'll see you guys in the next podcast.

Speaker D:

See ya.

Speaker E:

Thanks, guys. For listening to this podcast. Please visit us at aquarium guidespodcast.com and listen to us on spotify iheartradio itunes and anywhere you can listen to podcasts.

Speaker B:

We're practically everywhere. We're on Google. I mean, just go to your favorite.

Speaker A:

Place, pocket casts subscribe to make sure it gets push notifications directly to your phone.

Speaker B:

Otherwise Jim will be crying into sleep.

Speaker D:

Can I listen to it in my tree house?

Speaker B:

In your tree house, in your fish room, even alone at work.

Speaker D:

What about my man cave?

Speaker B:

Especially your man cave.

Speaker D:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Only if adam's there no with feeder guppy.

Speaker E:

No, they're anlers.

Speaker D:

You imagine loving Frank sucking mother frank.

Speaker B:

Well, I guess we'll see you next time. Later.

Episode Notes

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