#74 – Freshwater Shrimp Part 2

FEAT JOE THEISEN FROM JOE'S SHRIMP SHACK

3 years ago
Transcript
Speaker A:

Hey, all you fish heads out there. My name is Smoke and Joe and I have some questions. Do you have fish?

Speaker B:

Do you love your fish?

Speaker A:

Do you love your fish enough to buy them their own song? Oh, yeah. Who needs another castle for the tank when you can have a custom tune made for your favorite binned friend? It's easy. You tell me about your fish. I have the best fish. You pick a genre of music, I make you a song. From metal to Irish bulk, from EDM to funk to punk. I'd love to make a song for you. Visit www. Dot smoke and joonline.com to fill out your inquiry today. That's www dot smok inJOE online today. Welcome to the Aquarium Guide podcast with your host, Jim colby, and Rob dolson.

Speaker B:

I am so happy to be back. Welcome, one and all. Back to the podcast. Jimmy. Jimmy, it's been so far too long.

Speaker C:

What's that? COVID Kid. The COVID kid.

Speaker B:

It's been rather rough for me.

Speaker C:

Yeah, well, being a pussy, I'm sure.

Speaker B:

I'm just glad I still have my dick. Well, you count your blessings. That's right, you count your blessings. So, for those who are listening, you only saw us gone for one week. Honestly, we've had a couple of episodes in the chamber and we've been gone for three weeks. We haven't been on the mics. We're super rusty, and we decided to take some time, mainly because Rob sucks. And we had some COVID scares going on throughout my household. We've all had multiple tests, we're all clean and we're ready to rock and roll.

Speaker C:

So the syphilis is better.

Speaker B:

The itching is slow down.

Speaker A:

He took us penicillin.

Speaker C:

That's right.

Speaker B:

The itching has slowed down, for sure. Well, I am your host, Rob.

Speaker D:

First stage or tertiary syphilis?

Speaker A:

Why do you know so much about syphilis?

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Dr. Adam, I'm Rob zulfin.

Speaker C:

I'm clean and sober. Jim colby.

Speaker D:

And I met him.

Speaker B:

I purposely lag him out just so we get more comedy that way.

Speaker C:

Who's this guy?

Speaker B:

Today we have in studio because we all got COVID tested. Joe tyson from Joe Shrimp shack.

Speaker A:

Buenos dias.com.

Speaker C:

Buenos dias.

Speaker B:

We're super stoked to have a redux on the shrimp conversation, see what you're up to and see what's new.

Speaker A:

It's freezing here in Minnesota, that's all.

Speaker C:

I got to say.

Speaker A:

And we're supposed to get negative weather again for the next couple of days.

Speaker C:

That is correct. And now they are naming the cold fronts after my ex wife. Every time a cold front comes through these go cold front, gail, cold hearted frigid.

Speaker B:

All these free shout outs. We got a charger, so we have to do well.

Speaker C:

She gave us a table. We're good.

Speaker B:

She gave us this.

Speaker C:

I thought we stole this.

Speaker B:

Moving on. Well, I would like to thank all the people on discord and all the people on Twitch that we have live. You guys can join us. Go to Aquariumguyspodcast.com by the website, you'll find a link to Twitch and discord Twitch Tvaquariumguys. Come join the debauchery. We'll be answering questions live, but since we've been gone so horrible long, we selected some solid questions to answer before we start going into a deep dive on Shrimp, joe's 60th Cholawood and all.

Speaker A:

His many members wide.

Speaker C:

Wow, that's a nice start.

Speaker B:

That's a new promo promo code right there. You should get together six inch wide.

Speaker C:

Gwyneth paltrow and sell your stuff.

Speaker B:

Oh, my God.

Speaker C:

All right, we're going to talk about that.

Speaker B:

You better get off your chest before we start answering questions.

Speaker C:

Adam, you got the thing I sent you, right? About gwenneth paltrow. Joe.

Speaker D:

Yes, I did.

Speaker C:

So gwyneth paltrow got in a little bit of trouble last week. She sells candles, $75 a piece, and they're starting. People take them home, they light them up and they explode. And this is on CNN. And Fox not making this up.

Speaker B:

You got to have both to make it legit. That's the rule.

Speaker C:

Both what?

Speaker B:

They have both news stations? Yes.

Speaker C:

Fox and CNN both had it on there. Anyway, she sells I'm not making this up. Vagina scented candles. Come on, Joe.

Speaker A:

Good vagina or bad vagina? Because there's some stinky vagina. That's all I got to say.

Speaker C:

Smell like her vagina, is it?

Speaker A:

How do you know what her vagina smells like?

Speaker C:

Yeah. Adam, you have to buy the candle.

Speaker D:

And that's what they say.

Speaker A:

Or I heard dog's vagina.

Speaker C:

It could be. So I take this news thing I got and I sent it to rob's and Adam. Neither one of them respond.

Speaker B:

I knew about it.

Speaker C:

So I sent it to my wife, and here's what she says. She reads it and she says to me, why would somebody put a candle in your vagina? I go, you got to read the whole thing, honey.

Speaker B:

That's a clip right there.

Speaker C:

Yeah. So anyway, if you bought some gwyneth paltrow candles, please throw them out even though they're $75.

Speaker B:

Be careful. You have been warned.

Speaker C:

We don't want them exploding in people's houses.

Speaker B:

You've been officially warned.

Speaker A:

You're trying to say that gwyneth paltrow explodes?

Speaker C:

It happens to the best of them.

Speaker A:

If they have the right troll of wood.

Speaker C:

That's right.

Speaker B:

All right, so let's get into some questions.

Speaker C:

What? That was good.

Speaker B:

That was great. That was great.

Speaker A:

We set this up.

Speaker B:

We haven't done this for three weeks and the first thing you talk about is pussy candles. I can't be happier.

Speaker C:

I've got another story.

Speaker B:

No, we're going to go into questions.

Speaker C:

I've got a good story.

Speaker B:

Justin wants to know. Hey, guys. Been listening to the podcast for a bit now. I enjoy it very much. We have our favorite fish in the hobby, so I am no exception. Have you ever thought doing an episode on trophies? They are touted as difficult to keep, which is why I feel many people stay clear of them, but it really just comes down to caring. They are so close to marine colors and freshwater species. I've seen many different morphs, male and female. Both show they are fascinating to watch and especially in species only tanks. Hope to hear what you guys think of them. Keep it up. Best regards, Justin.

Speaker C:

Nice question.

Speaker B:

So we're going to do some trophies there.

Speaker C:

Jimmy not a fan.

Speaker B:

Yeah, full disclosure, jimmy and I are very much not fans of many sicklets. I like trophies much more than Jimmy does. And it definitely needs to be covered because there is this whole umbrella over trophy, specifically.

Speaker C:

Oh.

Speaker B:

It's difficult to keep and there's not a whole lot of reward in doing it. I disagree. I think it's like you said, fascinating colors. And you're seeing a ton of different colors come out of different breeding regions. Even different clubs have them. So if you have someone that is a trophy's expert, send them over to the aquarium. Guys, we love booking stuff up ahead of time. The reason that most of the three weeks it was a little bit of rob's getting COVID, but we do this stuff remote. We were stood up by a couple of guests. Doesn't feel great, but it happens. So if you got some guests you want to talk about trophies, send them our way. Or better yet, joe's way, because he's switching from the Shrimp shack to a trophy shop. Is that what it is?

Speaker A:

Pokemon shop poke.

Speaker C:

Okay.

Speaker A:

Shrimp and pokemon.

Speaker B:

Is that your new hustle? Now, I think we should take a tangent there and you should explain to the crowd what your new hustle is.

Speaker A:

Pokemon.

Speaker B:

Wait, are they going to go on Joe Shrimp shack.com and get some pokemon?

Speaker A:

Not right now. Maybe one page. I'm thinking about doing a whole entire new YouTube channel. Kind of like Leonard with pokemon because my collection is just superb a one.

Speaker B:

You're going to call it the Fatsnorlax.com.

Speaker A:

That'D be actually, no.

Speaker D:

You could call it, joe's. pokemon check.

Speaker A:

No.

Speaker C:

What's wrong with joe's Port Hub? Oh, boy. I think you should tie that in if buy a bag of shrimp, get a free pokemon card because that way you could use that pokemon card to scrape off the LG off your tank.

Speaker A:

Could some people be like, hell no. Why is he giving me a pokemon card?

Speaker C:

Exactly. That'd be me.

Speaker B:

Well, next one. Hey, guys. This is a text message that we got. You can also text us. Really? Hey, guys. Would like to request a full song of Shrimp Blues, please. Make sure to add in some diggery Do. I've been listening since episode one. So I messaged this guy back and we have a gentleman that I believe in this episode. You've probably heard of his advertisement, Smoke and Joe that is doing pet songs. So we message him to see if he wants to purchase a fish song sang in the Blues. Scrap is a bit busy. I don't think he's going to do a whole song. But if you want to have some songs written for you, certainly check the information in the description. We're going to have him as an interview guest February 15. This episode might be live by then, so certainly come and check us out. He'll be doing a concert on the aquarium guys, podcast.

Speaker C:

What? Finding some rock and roll mothers.

Speaker B:

It could be rock and roll. It could be folk time. Country.

Speaker C:

No, it will be rock and roll.

Speaker B:

Or Adams.

Speaker A:

It could be the dueling banjo's.

Speaker C:

Oh, my butt just puckered up.

Speaker B:

See, there you go. Anytime jimmy's butt puckered up, it's always a good time.

Speaker C:

Look like adam's butt puckered up there.

Speaker A:

Just a little bit.

Speaker B:

All right. We have a bunch of people that have been messaging in, so I'm trying to filter in.

Speaker C:

How many is a bunch?

Speaker B:

People's stories.

Speaker C:

How many is a bunch?

Speaker B:

Definitely two, right? No, definitely your mind.

Speaker C:

Who else?

Speaker B:

Multi digits.

Speaker C:

All right, multi.

Speaker B:

So if you want to get your story in before we do storytime.

Speaker C:

I got a story I was going to tell you.

Speaker B:

Is it story time for quality?

Speaker C:

It's a story.

Speaker B:

You better take your story.

Speaker C:

No, I'm not going to tell my story. Okay, I'll tell it later. I'll tell you, Joe, before you go home. Definitely.

Speaker A:

I'll listen to it with yours.

Speaker C:

Off the air.

Speaker B:

Off the air?

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

It's our secret.

Speaker C:

Secret time.

Speaker A:

It's our little secret.

Speaker B:

All right, next one. Hey, guys. My name is Dylan. I am 17 years old and from Ireland.

Speaker C:

What's up, Dylan?

Speaker B:

I love the podcast. So funny. Wealth of information. I know the main goal of your podcast is to inspire new and recurring aquarius. I have an Instagram page themed aquarium page that has around 28,000 followers in my own YouTube channel. I've decided to dedicate to fishkeeping and aquascaping every day. I got my new little followers that have never even kept a tank. So it would be great if you guys would make an aquarium guide podcast page where we could reach a whole new audience. I shouldn't tell him that Jimmy still never posted on Twitter once and now he wants an Instagram.

Speaker C:

I've done Twitter at least four times.

Speaker B:

Have you?

Speaker C:

The first week and I quit.

Speaker B:

You twatted like four times. You don't want all the good.

Speaker C:

I'm going. I'm never going to beat any of the kardashian girls and Twitter. So once I get above 2 million, then I'll start.

Speaker B:

I mean, what can you do? Well, let's give a shout out to Dylan here. He has daily aquariums and Instagram. I checked it out. It is pretty legitimate. There is some sweet, sweet tanks on there. Not enough shrimp for joe's liking.

Speaker A:

A keyword for something.

Speaker B:

This is why you got to watch the video. You can't miss these cues, but you got to have some Cholawood. If we give you a shout out now, you're obligation to get six inch cholaw in your next three posts minimum on Instagram.

Speaker C:

You know what? Because we don't know the difference between inches and centimeters. strap three of them together until six inches. I don't care. That's right.

Speaker B:

It's all over at that point. All right.

Speaker C:

Are you okay?

Speaker A:

Adam giggling like the europeans do centimeters because more numbers makes it look bigger. Versus us Americans, we just do the small inches because we can say, hey, six inches. And they have to say, oh, I got 24 CM, or whatever it is.

Speaker C:

I just got one of those funhouse mirrors in my bedrooms. Everything looks bigger and fatter.

Speaker B:

Is that what you call it? The cheese wheel?

Speaker C:

That's what it is.

Speaker B:

Okay, just checking. We also have a voicemail you can call in with your questions as well.

Speaker C:

What does that start?

Speaker B:

No, not enough people call in there's. Too shy. So here we go.

Speaker A:

Hey, guys. My name is tristan. I am a longtime listener, first time caller. I work outside, so I listen to you guys podcast while I'm at work. Quick question about co2. I have lots of plants doing really well in my 20 gallon community tank, but I really want to get some dwarf baby tears or something like that. The carpet on the bottom of my tank. So my question is, is there any cheap or easy co2 solutions for a broke college student? Because I can't afford a massive or expensive co2 system right now. Thanks, guys. I hope to hear back from you. Have a good one.

Speaker C:

Joe'S got this.

Speaker A:

I got that.

Speaker C:

Joe'S got this.

Speaker B:

All right.

Speaker A:

I'll cover a lot of the co2. The liquid carbon is not really liquid carbon. It's glutamaldehyde. So don't do that. Then they have the co2 tablets. Don't do that. As alka selzer, you have the paintball, which is the probably cheapest out there for injecting the paintball co2 on there. You also have the dyi version. I hate that. But to be honest, buy $125 rig for Milwaukee. It's it's that's what I use on my show tank, and it works out really well. $125 for the rig. Go buy yourself a five pound co2 cylinder and just go on that one. Just make sure you have the right lighting for your co2, because if you want to do monte carlo and stuff, they need a lot of light.

Speaker B:

The DIY ways of putting in the bottles, mixing up baking soda, the yeast combinations, it sucks shit. I've done so many of the mixtures and testing and just from people asking questions like, well, I probably should get my hands dirty. So of course, you get kits off a wish to get your little plastic applicators to stick on your coke bottles. And it's just the most shitty way of getting it done.

Speaker A:

Spend $125, get a real regular.

Speaker C:

Here's a good point. You could save that much money just in saving your plants. If you have a whole bunch of plants and you go to some sheep ass system. You could kill all your plants, and all of a sudden now you're $200 behind.

Speaker A:

Correct.

Speaker C:

So don't go out and drink beer two weekends in a row, and you can buy it or stay out of.

Speaker B:

Strip clubs or just throw away the ramen. Don't eat.

Speaker C:

Don't eat.

Speaker A:

Or if you're going to college, and if your parents are paying for your college, tell them that you came up with another book that you need to pay for and need about $150. These books. Go get yourself a rig.

Speaker C:

Exactly.

Speaker B:

Now, as far as sourcing the co2, go to your weld shop.

Speaker C:

Right.

Speaker B:

That has the cheapest way of getting you could even rent a can for cheap. Some places like you rent. I mean, and it can happen.

Speaker C:

And and that can last you a long time. Long time.

Speaker A:

I thought was funny when he left the messages. It sounded like like almost like a Dear abby. Long time listener, first time caller.

Speaker C:

Oh, I live in a small midwestern town, and I never thought this would happen to me.

Speaker A:

What's that?

Speaker C:

You never used to read all the in penthouse magazine. That's how they all started. That's another podcast which we can't talk about.

Speaker B:

Joe, how you've been, man? It's been a while since you've been on the podcast.

Speaker A:

Pretty good.

Speaker C:

It's nice that you got out of jail. How was jail?

Speaker A:

Not jail was pretty good.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Did love my troll wood.

Speaker C:

Love your troll wood. You get three squares a day.

Speaker A:

That's three squares and a hot cot.

Speaker C:

That's right.

Speaker B:

Well, if you guys haven't heard Joe on the podcast before, certainly listen to prior episode. You were even on one of the story times. I think there was a record amount of duck times. We ran out of ducks the last time you were here.

Speaker A:

I know. We had fun with Big Rich on the ducks.

Speaker B:

We did. We had a lot of fun.

Speaker C:

I forgot about that.

Speaker B:

That was too much. So I want to ask you the basic questions that we normally ask people, like, what got you in the hobby? Why do you do this? Because we all know it's for the pokemon cards now.

Speaker A:

That's right. It's all about the pokemon.

Speaker B:

All about the pokemon. Not the shrimp. We have unique questions that's specified. We have a bunch of people on the aquarium guys podcast that demand certain questions. And number one, why in the world don't you have Bathwater listed yet?

Speaker A:

Bathwater is listed so under odds and.

Speaker B:

Ends, you can now buy without using the promo code. You should directly buy Bathwater from Joe shrimpcheck.com. It's shrimp bathwater for those that are wondering, because we have got enough questions on our certified.

Speaker C:

Certified. Certified comes with the certificate.

Speaker A:

I don't know if it's a certificate.

Speaker B:

I mean, we'll have to work on it.

Speaker C:

Take our word on it, I guess post it note. A post it note. I like that. Adam. Which sucks is Adam is our money guy all about the money.

Speaker B:

All right. On Twitch, we have a couple of them says on here, sweet haze. It's the perfect evolution of beards. One rule never take advice from a guy with a golden spatula. So clearly they appreciate my golden spatula.

Speaker C:

I just found out about this last night.

Speaker B:

Isn't that great?

Speaker C:

Do you want to explain it to people about the golden spatula?

Speaker B:

I play a game called League of Legends. It's been around for well over a decade, and there's a character that never came out. It was a manatee that decided to bitch slap people with a golden spatula. So I have a golden spatula ever since I've been a hard player.

Speaker A:

Manatee?

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

I mean, look at me. I have to work on this.

Speaker D:

Look, you have Trump carved in your back.

Speaker B:

Oh, what?

Speaker C:

You have Trump carved in your back. Like that manatee down in Florida carved in. How horrible. And the whole time I thought this was, like, a reference to do you remember the old film stripes with Bill Murray? Who's your buddy?

Speaker A:

Who's your pal underneath her buttock?

Speaker C:

And that's why and then we had.

Speaker A:

That right there, too. That's what I kind of thought.

Speaker C:

That's rob's. I don't want to touch that.

Speaker A:

I was going to actually buy pokemon cards on my way up here and actually open them on air. Leanhardt did that, but every place was solo. I could not believe it. everybody's like, oh, drive like, 2 hours out of the cities and you'll find pokemon cards. No, I hit wadina at the Walmart. Guess what just ransacked. Nothing there.

Speaker B:

If, like, a tornado went through.

Speaker A:

It is.

Speaker C:

We're just talking about Rob kardashian opening up cards live and he's baseball cards. And he pulled what, a $100,000 card live.

Speaker B:

See, we just need Logan Paul to start getting into Fish.

Speaker D:

Wait, there's $100,000 baseball cards?

Speaker C:

Oh, God, yes.

Speaker B:

What was it? mickey mandel car went for five mil, babe bruce yeah.

Speaker C:

Rob kardashian. A few months ago, it made national news. He called his guy at, like, midnight saying, I want to buy a pack of these cards and a pack of $10,000. And he said, Just open it up live on one of these twitch or whatever it was. And he opened it up and the first card he pulled out was a freaking $100,000 card or something like that. It's pretty incredible because the kardashians, they need more money.

Speaker A:

Oh, clearly.

Speaker B:

I mean, can't think of anybody who needs it more, but I would like.

Speaker A:

To use that spatula in a couple of their stoves.

Speaker C:

Let me hand you my spatula.

Speaker A:

All right, we'll do that.

Speaker B:

I feel like this is going to be tangent, the podcast. So back on the thing. So what is new in your business before we get into the hobby?

Speaker A:

Nothing, really.

Speaker B:

It's just consistently amazing.

Speaker A:

I can't believe you are touching that right now.

Speaker B:

So how many pieces of troll or what have you sold.

Speaker C:

Oh, wow.

Speaker B:

Since we last talked.

Speaker A:

Well, maverick went over and bought you 50 as a gift, and his big thing was to say that he was going to try and buy me out. And of course I have Don Cholo. Don Cholo?

Speaker B:

Not until he passes.

Speaker A:

I might actually make something up on my page just for maverick to go over and spend money, since he wants to spend money and make a ridiculous kind of, like, gift for you.

Speaker B:

Oh, by the way, aren't you going to copyright the Don Cholo branded Cholo?

Speaker A:

Would I'll tell you this right now? I told Don Cholo about this, and he said he listened to it and he left his ass off.

Speaker C:

Now, this is like, explain who Don Cholo is for people who don't know.

Speaker A:

Right. So I got hooked up with this guy. He's 82 years old.

Speaker C:

Was that in prison? He was in prison. He got hooked up. Okay, that's good. Seems harmless.

Speaker A:

He sells chola wood. And I've been dealing with him for four years, I think it is. And I've tried to up my orders from him every single month, and he's just like, you know what? I'm 82 years old. I drink my coffee and I cut your wood, and I'm totally happy with that coffee busello. I try to go over and say, can I get 10,000 pieces a month? And he's like, I just can't do it. I can't. So I'm like, all right, just every month, just send me a package. Just whatever you possibly can. And I'm happy with it. And I support him and he's totally happy. He loves his whiskey. I'll send him a bottle of whiskey, too.

Speaker C:

Hey, Jim likes whiskey.

Speaker B:

We should all get that aquarium guys. Bottle of whiskey of gwen with Paul stro flavor fast water.

Speaker D:

The only whiskey I drink is two gingers.

Speaker C:

I know.

Speaker A:

So you like redheads?

Speaker D:

Yes, I do.

Speaker C:

Hey, I got two young boys that are redheads. Wait a minute. You don't go that way? No. Okay, that's good. They're both married. Anyway, moving on. joe's going to get out of this.

Speaker B:

I can't get out of this.

Speaker C:

I want to talk to him.

Speaker A:

I'm getting an order, someone. I'm trying to see if it's about Cholawood.

Speaker C:

Oh, no. I hope it's Cholawood.

Speaker A:

I'm going to look right out.

Speaker B:

Hey, you heard it live, people. He's getting live responses from orders.

Speaker C:

So my brother in law was here from Arizona, and he had explained to me what where trollawood came from. I had no idea it came from a cactus. clancy and I was just really impressed that I did not know that. There's a lot of things I don't know about, but that was a particular one. I didn't know about consuming.

Speaker B:

You didn't hear the advertisement talking about removing 2000 spines.

Speaker A:

You know what was ordered, guys? Certified shrimp bathwater.

Speaker C:

There we go.

Speaker A:

Dimax cultivating pots. Unfortunately, they did not use your tone code.

Speaker B:

They could have saved 15% off.

Speaker A:

It was a $15 order.

Speaker B:

Still, it could have saved some money.

Speaker A:

And we will tell the viewers who it is if they want to know.

Speaker C:

Yeah, let's shame first name. Let's shame them.

Speaker B:

First name is only daniel.

Speaker C:

Daniel.

Speaker B:

Daniel. Thank you, daniel.

Speaker A:

But I'll show you. Now we know.

Speaker D:

So I do have a question about the Cholawood. Do they have to cut the cactuses down, or do they just come back every year, or how do they it's dead cactus. Okay, so it's already dead and dried.

Speaker A:

It's dead and dry. They cut it in the pieces of the length that you want.

Speaker C:

So how do you get the spines off? I mean, there must be some sort of fast method rather than starting to pop them off one at a time.

Speaker A:

Well, everything that I've seen for, like, the wild just comes in long branches, so I think that the spines have already fallen off.

Speaker C:

Oh, okay. So I shouldn't feel so sorry for don cho.

Speaker A:

Exactly.

Speaker C:

I thought he was sitting there with a freaking pair of pliers and a bottle of whiskey. goddamn joe shrimp. Chuck joe shrimp chip piece of shit.

Speaker A:

Mother making a lot of money on this shit.

Speaker C:

Yeah, I got Social Security. I thought maybe he just had a round hole that he keeps shoving it in and knocking it off.

Speaker A:

We wish we all had that round hole.

Speaker B:

So let's get into shrimp.

Speaker C:

I'll change the subject.

Speaker B:

We kind of change the subject. Otherwise, this is going to be the cholo wood episode. It's going to be all over.

Speaker A:

It can just be a random episode. It doesn't have to be, like, specific.

Speaker B:

Hey, it's the Joe redux episode.

Speaker A:

So remember, I get the golden spatula.

Speaker B:

What's new in the shrimp world?

Speaker A:

What's new in the shrimp world? Well, hopefully with COVID hopefully we can start getting more immunity out there so we can start doing shows. Because I love Minnesota, but I am ready to travel. So is Chris luca. He's ready to travel as well.

Speaker B:

Just getting old. We got to go places.

Speaker A:

It is.

Speaker B:

That's why you're doing bulk?

Speaker A:

I'm at the store, and I go home, and that's it. Nothing. No life.

Speaker B:

That's why he's here on a monday.

Speaker C:

Tell our listeners where you travel to, what shows you do on a yearly basis.

Speaker A:

All right, we do the international shrimp contest, which last year was done in new Jersey closet, new jersey. I do aqua shellas. I do global pet expo. I'm supposed to do dortmund, but that got canceled going over to taiwan as well. There's a lot of places that I kind of want to go traveling and stuff. curse wants me to go to Germany, so damn. I'm like, smacking everything.

Speaker B:

You just bitch. lat that mic right there with your golden spatula. How it was.

Speaker A:

Take that.

Speaker C:

His nine inch golden rod.

Speaker A:

Say my name.

Speaker B:

He got excited.

Speaker C:

Who's your daddy?

Speaker A:

Who's your daddy?

Speaker C:

Say it. Say it. Say it. It's gel. Say it. Stop it.

Speaker B:

We are hiding the vodka before the podcast boys. All right, so you missed shows, but.

Speaker C:

We did alcohol animals.

Speaker B:

You can't stop specifically, shrimp is a young thing, right? So it's changing. There's colors all the time.

Speaker C:

We don't do young things.

Speaker B:

I've been seeing we check ids. Lime green shrimp coming out of Germany. When are these going to happen on joe's?

Speaker A:

So the thing is, like lime green. A lot of water is a little bit different. So this is how I kind of tell people, like over in Taiwan, they have good, perfect water, we call it, and then when it comes here, we have to remineralize and everything. So a lot of the shrimp that I see, I've heard people say, well, I got this purple Neocaradine. And I'm like, let me see it. And a lot of it's, the lighting and everything. I know I got a key lime green off a Neocardina ketoglon. It's on the endangered species list. I end up getting a bag of them a long time ago. I've just been kind of breeding them out and I don't sell them. But America is five years behind what Taiwan is in Germany is three years behind what Taiwan is too. So what's popular now for us is already outdated over in Taiwan. So if you ever kind of look, it's hard finding crystal red shrimp right now because Taiwan is done and over with it right now. Someone from ten breeding tanks, probably down to only one, everybody's. We're just tired of this whole culvert thing. We're all stuck in our fish rooms.

Speaker B:

It's just kind of getting old.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

So how about crayfish? Is that getting popularity? Because I'm getting a ton of questions from people as of lately.

Speaker A:

Chris is making it more popular out there because he's always been a crayfish person.

Speaker B:

He's been cray.

Speaker A:

He's been cray, cray, cray.

Speaker B:

So what do you have for crayfish on hand?

Speaker A:

You? I have the Mexican dwarf oranges and I have the bravos brazos. It's the cannibalis Texaconis.

Speaker B:

Any wood shrimp?

Speaker A:

I do have some wood shrimp. I do.

Speaker B:

I need some wood shrimp.

Speaker C:

Do you?

Speaker B:

I do.

Speaker A:

You need some wood. You need some woods of wood.

Speaker B:

I'm saying these things in a roundabout way.

Speaker C:

Control, haven't you?

Speaker B:

Trying to cover my bases. No more tequila. No more tequila either. I'm going to go down the list. All right. Avoid his next if you got to watch yourself.

Speaker C:

What?

Speaker B:

And we're going to have to take away from the podcast wood.

Speaker C:

I've been cut off by the best you don't scare me wood. Me and Joe could just walk out of this place right now and just have the time of our fucking life.

Speaker B:

This is what happened.

Speaker A:

Negative nine degrees.

Speaker B:

What do we have podcasted for?

Speaker C:

Bringing strike. We'll be out there making naked snow angels.

Speaker A:

We're going to go to tuffies and go grab a whole. Pallet of dog food and just put it all over your yard.

Speaker B:

That's actually happened before. All right, so no wood shrimp. Why are they dying? For all of our listeners, and we continually get questions about it, they're buying.

Speaker C:

It from the wrong person.

Speaker A:

I don't know why they're dying. They live in my tanks.

Speaker B:

So do you have tons of flow in your tank?

Speaker A:

I have a decent flow in my tank that I have them in there.

Speaker B:

Do you personally make it messy?

Speaker A:

I don't really make it messy.

Speaker C:

They're big. Do you take a poop in there? Joke.

Speaker B:

I take a dookie there. I'm hearing all these people trying to give me all these recommendations.

Speaker A:

I don't have a heater in my tank, so everybody should know by now. At 76 degrees, there could be a disease. It's called muscular neurosis. That's a bacteria that gets underneath the shells. Caradina shrimp.

Speaker C:

Jerry Lewis used to have a thing about that. Muscular dystrophy. You're talking rogue one. Okay.

Speaker A:

But right now, we don't know if it affects the caradina, but it could affect the bamboo shrimp, too. So usually what it looks like is the insides of the shrimp turn like a milky white, and then when they molt and die, because they will die from it, and another shrimp eats that molten and chews on their dead carcass, they'll catch it as well. It's a tank killer. So take your heaters out of your tanks.

Speaker B:

Just keep it cold.

Speaker C:

Quit feed them nick ribs.

Speaker B:

So how do you feed wood shrimp? And for those that don't know, you can look up wood shrimp or bamboo shrimp. They seem to have these fronds on their hands.

Speaker A:

They call the catch pom palms. The pompoms pom palms.

Speaker B:

They're always, like, cheering you on every time you come in. Jimmy, get in. Get in there, Jimmy.

Speaker C:

They always remind me of, I'm going to direct the airplane in.

Speaker A:

Come on, this way.

Speaker C:

Come here, this way, guys. Come in here. Slide over here. Put it right there.

Speaker A:

I'm on top of the wood. Come on, come on.

Speaker C:

Do it, wood. Do it.

Speaker B:

So again, how do you feed these?

Speaker A:

All right, I take pom pom.

Speaker B:

Cheers.

Speaker A:

I take powder food, and I kind of sprinkle on the top of it because they make powder shrimp food, and as it sifts down, they'll get it with their little pompoms.

Speaker C:

Looks like little feather dusters.

Speaker B:

So how often do you feed?

Speaker A:

I feed those shrimp in general?

Speaker B:

Correct. Every third day.

Speaker A:

Every third day. I take shrimp as their natural habitat. They're scavengers. I make them go scavenge.

Speaker B:

So is that what you feed shrimp in general, just every third day? Or is it just wood shrimp?

Speaker A:

Just wood shrimp.

Speaker B:

So what what was other shrimp and that you have in your store?

Speaker A:

Other shrimp? I have over 75 varieties.

Speaker B:

So let's go. Neocardenia versus cardenia. That's what we'll try to categorize these as.

Speaker A:

All right, so you want me to start naming the shrimp.

Speaker B:

I'd rather you categorize like. Well, in general. neos. Get this.

Speaker A:

Oh, neos. neo's Shrimp. I normally feed twice a week, unless there's babies in the tank, and then I feed every other day the powder food. And then I do a pellet once a week for the adults.

Speaker B:

Damn. That's way less than I would have assumed.

Speaker A:

They're scavengers. Make them do their job.

Speaker B:

I thought I was just being shitty and not feeding them enough, but I fed them.

Speaker C:

You are being shitty. They're scavengers. And that's why a lot of times when Joe opens up his freaking closet door to put his shoes on, they're in the freaking closet scavenging around. That's right.

Speaker A:

What?

Speaker B:

Jimmy, it's your turn for questions.

Speaker C:

Wood, why is Rob such a dick sometimes? Nobody could answer that.

Speaker B:

All right, Adam, it's your turn for questions.

Speaker A:

If he's going to ask me questions, we got to put him up on camera.

Speaker C:

Yeah, I want to see that big.

Speaker A:

Beautiful hide behind a superman cable.

Speaker B:

We got to see the yellow towel.

Speaker C:

He's beautiful. You know, he has one eyebrow? You ever notice that? Goes straight across like a cartoon character.

Speaker B:

It's kind of like Breaking Benjamin, the early form, where he just doesn't do any manscaping on this one.

Speaker C:

Yeah, I bet you adam's hairy Are.

Speaker A:

You having problems again with over your head?

Speaker C:

Are you okay?

Speaker A:

Do you need instructions?

Speaker C:

First time with your blankie?

Speaker B:

This is his last time with his microphone, so he doesn't have to tell.

Speaker A:

This is bubba blanky. Yeah.

Speaker C:

Have you ever been underneath a blanket and then farted and then you went, wow, that was a mistake?

Speaker A:

Dutch? No.

Speaker B:

All right, Adam, what questions you got for Joe?

Speaker A:

Are you sweating? Are you nervous?

Speaker C:

It's okay if you're nervous.

Speaker A:

We've all done it.

Speaker C:

First time on the big radio.

Speaker A:

That's right. Hand check underneath the blanket, please.

Speaker C:

What are you doing?

Speaker A:

I don't know anymore.

Speaker C:

What's your question, Adam?

Speaker A:

Jim, we're taking over the station.

Speaker C:

Oh, yeah?

Speaker B:

All right, well, Adam figures out the question. What size tank is best for a starter shrimp tank? Looking at a 15 gallon fluval pedestal tank. Also, recommendations for substrate choice been told three different things by local fish stores.

Speaker A:

All right, so you have to be aware of the fluval pedestal tanks, any of the fluval tanks, because they have the little slits for the overflow unless you put foam in there to block it. So I started my tanks at 2.5, but usually five s and ten s are a good one.

Speaker B:

Tell Joe I chose not to use the code so he makes more on the bottom line.

Speaker A:

Damn. There we go.

Speaker B:

I'd like him to seal the package with the kiss.

Speaker A:

Oh, dude, I'm going to French that bottle.

Speaker B:

I will know if he didn't.

Speaker A:

Oh, dude. I'm going to French it.

Speaker C:

Send him a package with DNA in it, if you know what I mean.

Speaker B:

That's what the bathwater is for shrimp bathwater.

Speaker C:

Special prize in the cereal box.

Speaker B:

Anyway, pedestal fluvils be concerned about yeah.

Speaker A:

Because a lot of the fluvs are the all in ones have the overflow in there, and the shrimp can go back there and get caught. So you either put foam in front of it most breeders out there use a five or a 20 gallon. I kind of use a 510, two and a half, 15, whatever tank I have available.

Speaker C:

Whatever holds water.

Speaker A:

Exactly. Because there's such a small little shrimp, you could get a big colony. I've had over 302.5.

Speaker B:

Really?

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

And don't be calling peta, because we can't listen.

Speaker A:

Yeah, well, guess what, peta, they don't really consider shrimp as pets because, trust me, there's some Beta fighters out there and they don't consider fish as animals for pets because the store got called on and that was the response back.

Speaker B:

I don't want names, but we all.

Speaker A:

Know who it is. I'm just not naming the name.

Speaker B:

But are you just jealous because it can be the referee?

Speaker A:

No, we can just tame it and everything else, but it is waters.

Speaker B:

Interesting. So what about the shrimp wrestling competitions? We've heard about this before.

Speaker A:

That's quiet club.

Speaker C:

The shrimp fight club.

Speaker A:

It's rule one. You don't mention it.

Speaker B:

Don't talk about shrimp flight club. All right.

Speaker C:

It's right. How do you tell who lives one that's on top?

Speaker A:

The one that's on top?

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Wood adam, what's your questions?

Speaker A:

Do I see your forehead?

Speaker D:

Do you ever get the suisse Shrimp in?

Speaker A:

No, I do not. I'm not a big silhouette fan. It's hard to ship them for one just because they like warm temperature. And a lot of people like, if I had them in my retail store, customers are coming because this happens. I mean, having a bet. See the two big box chain stores, they say, hey, set up a tank. You get livestock in there the next day, not understanding a whole cycle of how long it takes, but the average consumer wants to get the tank and set up shrimp in there right away. And they don't realize on salici that they like a well established tank with lots of algae. So try and go up to a customer and say, please wait six months before you put a new shrimp in there. They'll be like, I am going to the other box store and get them back.

Speaker D:

Yeah, I had my own I had my own store.

Speaker B:

I hated it when they did that.

Speaker A:

Dude, it's all I see is your forehead. You got to be on camera.

Speaker B:

I kind of prefer it this way.

Speaker C:

A lot of times I don't want to be seen with this.

Speaker A:

I felt like I was, like six foot four. I was, like, talking to his forehead.

Speaker C:

It's like Adams on his knees.

Speaker A:

Whoa.

Speaker B:

Wood did you guys have a lot.

Speaker D:

To drink this morning?

Speaker C:

This morning?

Speaker B:

Joe came last night and stayed overnight.

Speaker C:

You can't get this way unless you start.

Speaker D:

Matt explained it.

Speaker B:

That's what did it. So we had a good time. We stayed up, talked about pokemon.

Speaker C:

Oh, you guys had a sleep?

Speaker B:

He gagged up my shrimp rack.

Speaker C:

We did.

Speaker B:

My eyes are over here.

Speaker C:

What?

Speaker B:

He appreciates my rack.

Speaker D:

Is there anybody in the Us that breeds suluysi or has any good success with them, or no, they just are just that much.

Speaker A:

Certain people breed certain things, and that's the biggest thing. But I've never really seen I'm not a part of any of the Salawasi Facebook pages and stuff just because I don't carry them. So there might be some pages where people are actually successful breeding them and doing the longevity of it. But I know just for shipping them, it's really tough because they have to have stable, warm water. And of course, when you're in Minnesota, that's never going to happen. Yeah. Why do you want silhouettes? Is that what you're trying to say?

Speaker D:

Yeah, I like them.

Speaker A:

You like them?

Speaker C:

You like them?

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

How much do you like them? You like them?

Speaker D:

I like weird shit.

Speaker C:

I know.

Speaker D:

They tick my buckets for weird shrimp.

Speaker A:

Does it have corn in it, too?

Speaker C:

No, cream corn.

Speaker B:

All right.

Speaker C:

Rob goes back on track again.

Speaker B:

I'm going down the list because we talked about shrimp cod.

Speaker A:

If you answer your question, where is the list? I want to see the list.

Speaker B:

I can't see the list.

Speaker C:

That's what he does.

Speaker B:

Jim has his own list. Everybody remembers it.

Speaker A:

Everybody. Keep in mind, this is, like, unlikely. I have no idea what they're even going to say. So these little one liners are just off the top of my head.

Speaker B:

I hope so, because if we plant this, this would be scuffed as hell.

Speaker A:

I know.

Speaker B:

What how long does it take and what measurements do you take to try to see if a shrimp tank set up? I'm so sick of people messaging in, hey, I cycled my tank and my shrimp died.

Speaker A:

How long did you cycle it for? Did you ask them?

Speaker B:

Two weeks.

Speaker A:

That's not enough.

Speaker B:

That's what I'm saying. At a minimum of two weeks. And then you still got to see detritus everywhere.

Speaker A:

Well, not necessarily detritus. I tell people a nice establishment for shrimp is usually three to four weeks. And then you test the ammonia. And then you test the nitrates. ammonia has got to be at a zero, and then the nitrates need to be below five for ideal for shrimp. And then you can start going over and introducing more. So when I started colony, I always start between ten and 15. Let that go for a couple of weeks. Let the bacteria get used to all the biolo that's going in there. Then I add some more in there.

Speaker B:

Now, do you ever wait for any type of algae or any type of film in the tank so they have something to feed off of? When you first put them in there?

Speaker A:

No, I just make sure that it's fully recycled and then I can feed them accordingly.

Speaker B:

So now when you say feeding accordingly, so you have a new cycle tank. It's been sitting for four weeks. There really isn't much for any algae growth or detritus in there at all. You just feed a little heavier until it starts establishing.

Speaker A:

No, I go over, and once my tank is fully cycled, let's say it's four weeks. Let's use that example. Four weeks. I'll do a 25% water change, put fresh water in there, put my ten to 15 shrimp in there, wait 24 hours, and then I drop a pellet of food in there and I just go. On my normal regiment, I'm a retail store. People like coming in the store and they like seeing clean tanks. They don't want to go in there and say, look at all this algae.

Speaker B:

It's too much.

Speaker A:

It is just too much for them.

Speaker B:

So what is the perfect shrimp companions that you recommend?

Speaker A:

Snails work, chili respores work, cpds work. You can do like, one or two of the dwarf crayfish, but not over populate.

Speaker B:

Now, I heard that snails aren't necessarily the best in small tanks because you're taking away calcium load. They can overpopulate a tank.

Speaker A:

We're not talking like, Malaysian trumpet snails and ramsorms. I just don't like those.

Speaker D:

But like, you know, nobody likes Malaysian trumpets.

Speaker C:

Just Rob.

Speaker A:

He loves them.

Speaker B:

Hey, those are gone now.

Speaker A:

But let's see, you have a five gallon tank, put a mystery snail in there, put a couple of knee right snails in there. I put assassin snails in all my tanks. I love those little suckers.

Speaker B:

So now that's another question.

Speaker A:

Like a brain sucker, I have a.

Speaker B:

Gut feeling that assassin snails, given the opportunity, will eat a couple of shrimp lips.

Speaker A:

So I don't believe that at all. If a shrimp is going to stay there on the ground and allow a super slow snail to suck its breed to creep up to it with his little straw and suck him up, then he was probably already almost dead.

Speaker B:

Or that's what we call a precal.

Speaker C:

Or it's stupid enough, and sometimes stupid is what stupid does, and it's stupid to go.

Speaker A:

It's kind of like, ugg is a carnivorous plant, and we say, oh, it's going to eat my shrimp. If that shrimp is sitting there and allows the moss to grow over it, then it probably deserves to die. But I have never actively seen a snail hunt down a shrimp it or a full grown shrimp and kill it if it's already on the way, dead, twitching on the ground. Yes, it's a scavenger. It's going to go eat it.

Speaker B:

So is it a shrimp, let or shrimp?

Speaker A:

Yeah, I call it shrimpies, too.

Speaker B:

Shrimpies.

Speaker A:

Show me your shrimp.

Speaker B:

Shrimp.

Speaker A:

Shrimples. It's a shrimp et. It's kind of like, is it shrimp or shrimp? shrimps. It's kind of like, if you put multiple colors in there, are they shrimps?

Speaker B:

Or if you're some of our Asian friends, shrimps, yes.

Speaker A:

Ramen, noodle.

Speaker C:

Wow.

Speaker A:

It's your turn.

Speaker C:

To me. You threw me off with the whole Asian, Asian, Asian persuasion.

Speaker A:

But I do believe, though, for the plural, if you have 20 of one color, it's shrimp. But when you add multiple colors, it's shrimps. I do believe I had this topic before with someone.

Speaker B:

There's not a moose or mooses exactly.

Speaker A:

It's like shrimp and then shrimps. Like, multiple colors. I think I had this debate with someone, and I'm like, dude, this is, like, the stupidest debate that we're trying to have right now.

Speaker C:

Was it over tequila?

Speaker A:

Scotch.

Speaker C:

Scotch?

Speaker B:

Either that or they're counting shrimps.

Speaker A:

Show me your shrimp. All I got to make a shirt of that.

Speaker B:

If you're eating them, it's shrimp.

Speaker C:

If you're eating them, you're at Red lobster, dumbass. They're delicious.

Speaker A:

Yeah, but he's up in perum, so it's ramen noodles.

Speaker C:

Ramen noodles.

Speaker B:

Last time I went to Red lobster, I had chicken.

Speaker A:

It's delicious with the garlic butter.

Speaker D:

How would you eat chicken in a seafood place?

Speaker B:

It was cherry wood smoked chicken on a bed of rice. It was wonderful.

Speaker A:

I eat the cheeseburgers or the kids.

Speaker C:

Cheeseburgers at Red lobster.

Speaker A:

I don't eat seafood.

Speaker C:

You don't?

Speaker A:

It's a texture thing. It reminds me of a juicy booger.

Speaker B:

I don't eat seafood. How many people confuse your store with the restaurant?

Speaker A:

Quite a few. I had three this last week. One guy was pretty upset too. He calls me, and he's like, well, where are you located? So I gave the address, and he goes, Aren't you in Victoria? I'm like, that's my house. And he's like, So you used to serve food at your house? I'm like, no, I used to eat food at my house. I said, I'm an aquatic store. Because I thought, this is a restaurant. I'm like, if you googled my name, it says aquatic store. It doesn't say restaurant. And he was like, wow. Excuse me. Sorry. If you want some Mres, we'll give you some Mres.

Speaker B:

You commented on one of our advertisements saying it's not a restaurant. And you're like, finally, people still call.

Speaker A:

It for a restaurant. I had a guy actually drive by, and he's like, Can I send my daughter and pick up some shrimp? I'm sure. What type of shrimp do you want? He's like, well, what size are them? Like, well, what size do you want? There are multiple colors. He's like, we're talking to eat, right? I'm like, if you want ramen noodles. And he came in with his daughter, and he like, fell in love. He's like, oh, my God. This is so cool. He went to his daughter, said, do you want these? She's like, no, I can't eat them. This is all in one week. I have fun at the store. When people like that come in, it's.

Speaker B:

Just like, oh, do you have ramen. Like shrimp ramen noodles. Just on hand?

Speaker A:

No, I have Mres on hand at the store. So if I get the one person like, hey, I want to make a reservation, you are getting a sodium free mre.

Speaker B:

So if people call in, you actually hold a reservation for them at a certain time.

Speaker C:

What's the mre.

Speaker A:

Meals ready to go.

Speaker D:

Meals Ready.

Speaker A:

I have done it before where someone calls and says, Can I make a reservation? I'm like, sure. How many people? Two. What time did they ask what the special is? And I tell them it's shrimp. I think by then they look it up, and then they never show up. But if someone ever shows up, I have the mre actually ready.

Speaker B:

There you have the table, you have the dude.

Speaker C:

I'm going to go to paltrow calendar.

Speaker A:

My alexa is going to be playing some music and stuff. She's going to be like, oh, my God, this is sweet. You took over a whole entire store for this?

Speaker C:

Some sweet jazz music.

Speaker B:

This food sucks, though. I got to do this to my wife, be like, I got your reservation, baby. Like, I recognize this place, you asshole.

Speaker C:

The last time my wife and I stopped up there, that Joe and jen had a conversation about his address and how Google sucks. Trying to find your place. Oh, God. Yeah.

Speaker A:

If you use Google, it takes you to the back of the building to a dumpster. I think the picture actually shows a dumpster.

Speaker C:

It does.

Speaker A:

So I actually went over and I can log on to my Google and I can move the arrow to the right spot. And then they said, hey, there's already a business there. I'm like, I'm glad you recognize that there's another business there besides that, too. And they actually took on my whole Google account because they thought it was being fraud, and I had approved to them. So I lost, like 60 or 70 good reviews because they just deleted everything and they restarted it. And of course do they use my picture of the front? No, they show the dumpster once again.

Speaker B:

Last time I was at your place, I fixed it. I'm a Google administrator, and as you can tell, it's exactly on point now. You're welcome.

Speaker A:

That is cool.

Speaker B:

Yeah. So didn't know that that was a meme. I should have put it back on the dumpster.

Speaker A:

It's one of those ones everybody's, like, super confused.

Speaker C:

Yeah, my knuckles hurt from knocking on the dumpster.

Speaker A:

Yeah, it happens.

Speaker C:

Joe, are you in there?

Speaker A:

No, it's the garbage bill key.

Speaker B:

Where'S my reservation?

Speaker C:

Jimmy, what?

Speaker A:

Table for two, please.

Speaker C:

Is that Rob?

Speaker B:

What questions you got?

Speaker C:

What questions do I have? Temperature on shrimp? Everybody likes doing shrimp because you don't need a heater. But at what point is it too cold for shrimp?

Speaker A:

Well, normally out in the wild, they're harvested between 55 and 62 degrees. So I tell people I keep my place at usually 72. So the water is three degrees less. Like 69 degrees.

Speaker C:

60.

Speaker A:

You said 69, but I would say around the 68th. If it gets down to like 65, you can buy one of those heaters that you can actually control the temperature. Just don't put it over 72 because most heaters are plus or minus two degrees.

Speaker C:

So that makes total sense. Yeah. Down in my basement right now, just like the studio here, I have open ceiling and I've been putting in insulation and stuff. And I've already noticed the temperature has come up two degrees. Just because the air is not going up into my sunroom. Because my fish room is right below it in my sunroom, which was added on to my house years ago.

Speaker A:

I mean, you can usually tell if the water is too cold. Just like on beta fish, they're going to be kind of lethargic. They're not going to move that much.

Speaker C:

Right. And I use matin filters on the back and I know a lot of people like them, love them, hate them and stuff. What do you use in your store?

Speaker A:

Dual sponge filters.

Speaker C:

And those are pretty cheap, aren't they?

Speaker A:

They are very cheap. If you actually go on the website, it's $5 for the small ones and 550 for the larger ones.

Speaker C:

And can I use my coupon for 15% off?

Speaker A:

You sure can.

Speaker C:

Can I get some free bath water?

Speaker A:

You can get bathwater.

Speaker C:

How about some Meals on Wheels?

Speaker A:

Meals on Wheels.

Speaker B:

He'll sell the shrimp mres on his website.

Speaker A:

I will sell the whole store.

Speaker C:

I will sell my soul to the double as long as the check clears.

Speaker A:

You said you had the American Express black, right?

Speaker C:

That's right, I said it's black. I didn't say it was American Express.

Speaker B:

Adam, you had more questions. I saw it in your face.

Speaker A:

Blanket over the head first, please, sir.

Speaker D:

Really?

Speaker A:

No, we're just kidding.

Speaker D:

That you had some really expensive shrimp. What kind were those?

Speaker A:

Blue metallic boas. You're frozen, sir. You were just holding still.

Speaker C:

He didn't even tell him the price yet, Joe.

Speaker B:

He didn't expect the question to land there.

Speaker D:

Well, I didn't know what they were.

Speaker A:

So those are not actually on the website. I just have them. So blue metallica boas were $5,000 when a lot of people started purchasing a piece, and the breeder overseas ended up dropping down the price because a lot of us Americans went over and purchased them. So I think he's got to drop down to 2500 a piece right now. Lumatallic boas, he's looking it up.

Speaker C:

So do you have a special? Like you run four for $10,000?

Speaker A:

I tell people I take titles.

Speaker C:

Really? So I could come in and drop off title in my car or my house? Yeah, you can still live at your house. I don't care. I was just selling it. And how many of those do you sell at a crack? Do you actually have clientele come in and go, I'll take them.

Speaker A:

I have clientele for tax purposes. I have sold a couple where I gave the guy a deal because he's one of my good customers.

Speaker C:

How many do you keep on hand?

Speaker A:

Are you with the irs?

Speaker C:

No.

Speaker A:

You know, of I do believe I have ten on hand right now, and.

Speaker B:

Then I have the calls, which I.

Speaker A:

Sell for, I do believe, $125.

Speaker B:

I'm just saying, you're a single guy, attractive ball.

Speaker A:

Yes. We tried to do an ad to get me hooked up, and not one not one person inquired, not one person name on you.

Speaker B:

I'm just saying it's people. It's not us, all right? It's because you put a red light out and you sell your shrimp to people for high amounts of money.

Speaker A:

Not high amounts. My pfrs are $4. My crystal shrimp or 450.

Speaker C:

That's pretty cheap.

Speaker B:

I mean, you're talking about two grand shrimp just a minute ago.

Speaker A:

Well, that's because I was asked most expensive shrimp.

Speaker C:

Yeah, but if you buy, they get.

Speaker D:

A metallic into that what gene is that?

Speaker A:

The breeder doesn't really go over and say that, okay. That's the biggest thing for the people that breed certain things, they are never going to tell you what they bred in there. It's kind of like the Safari Line shrimp. monica polar will never tell you what she bred in there, so why would she tell you if you're going to go over and duplicate it.

Speaker C:

For your do it yourself people? If you feed the damn things glitter.

Speaker A:

Just take some spray paint.

Speaker C:

There you go.

Speaker A:

The shrimp shack. Simple.

Speaker B:

The Shrimp Shack USA Safari Shrimp apparently gets a lot of your calls. I just wanted to put that out there. The shrimpshackusa.com gets a lot of your calls.

Speaker A:

Why did they name a Shrimp Shack in the first place? This should have went over and just yeah, actually there's a lego. I think it's a lego movie. joe's shrimp shack is actually in it. So if you Google joe's Shrimpshack, there's actually on there, right there. I've been working with a lawyer with.

Speaker B:

The whole copyright, and you said lego.

Speaker A:

I think I just look up Joe Shrimp shack. I don't know what Joe joe Shrimp.

Speaker B:

Shack an abandoned restaurant. No, that's not what it is.

Speaker A:

That is yeah, that's for lego.

Speaker B:

The Hidden Side of wiki. Oh, it is.

Speaker A:

So I've been working with a lawyer for the copyright because my company was in business prior to them coming out with that.

Speaker C:

So you're saying that people watch the logo?

Speaker A:

My lawyer is all about that. He's just like, oh, dude, do you know that they're using your picture of that upside down flag and everything? We're going to go after them and just let it be. And then he found this one on there, too, and he's just like, so.

Speaker C:

You have the same lawyer as Disney. God, you are the man.

Speaker A:

I tell them just let it Go. And then I have to deal with.

Speaker B:

No, no, that's a different Disney movie.

Speaker C:

Let it go. That's right, let it go.

Speaker A:

And then, of course, you got Chris Lucas. And all Chris Lucas'pictures are copyrighted. I'm the only authorized person to be able to use it in the United States. And he finds people non stop using his pictures. And for the most part, if you give him credit for it, he doesn't care. But then some people are like, no, I'm just whatever. And he's like, Joe, you have to go after him. It's like, I have enough to do during a day. But I had one guy on ebay that literally made thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars off his pictures. And I literally said, for every posting, I want $200 for every picture. And in 15 minutes that picture was down. But you could see how many items that he sold using Christmas pictures. There it is. Mr. Joe Shrimp Shack legos.

Speaker B:

That's fascinating.

Speaker C:

Bastards. We should storm the capital and take it down.

Speaker A:

Oh, don't say that. We're going to have people knocking on the door.

Speaker B:

People knocking on the door.

Speaker C:

They all think you live in a dumpster.

Speaker D:

Anyway, for the libertarianism and my double passports. And now you go and talk about this shit.

Speaker A:

They're listening to us. Our phones are listening to us.

Speaker C:

That's right.

Speaker B:

Haven't you been banned from Delta yet? I mean Schmelta.

Speaker C:

Schmelta Airlines loves me. What's interesting is okay, go ahead, Adam.

Speaker B:

No, no.

Speaker D:

Go ahead, Jim.

Speaker C:

I was just going to ramble on about Schmelto. You go ahead and schmalt.

Speaker D:

Well, I let you ramble about Schmelta because those are always good changes.

Speaker C:

Yeah. Now they've heard it before.

Speaker D:

What's the newest shrimp coming out of Taiwan? That would be that you think is going to be a huge hit when.

Speaker A:

It comes over yellow galaxy fish bones. That's what won the shrimp contest two years ago. Because we didn't do a shrimp contest last year. That's what won it last year. And as soon as that one breeder started just breeding those like crazy. So that's going to be another popular one when it comes out, when we can finally go to shows and do some traveling around.

Speaker D:

What the hell did you call it?

Speaker A:

Yellow Galaxy fishbone.

Speaker C:

It's amazing. You get stuff like that where let's say like Amazon has put something on the front cover and stuff, and it just drives people crazy because they can't get it. And we got our friends over Secrets farms, too. They'll talk about when they hit the medica race fish on there and stuff.

Speaker A:

It's kind of looking at my wood.

Speaker C:

And saying, wow, you get that a lot, don't you?

Speaker A:

I do.

Speaker C:

Robbie, you kind of lost control, didn't you?

Speaker A:

You shaking his head.

Speaker B:

Yeah, I'm just so gone.

Speaker A:

You said this was unrated.

Speaker B:

It's something. Do you carry vampire shrimp?

Speaker C:

No.

Speaker B:

And what are your experience with vampire shrimp?

Speaker C:

I do.

Speaker A:

Not have any experience with vampire shrimp.

Speaker C:

And I do not carry vampire shrimp because they suck.

Speaker A:

I eat a lot of garlic, so I don't know if it'd be well for me.

Speaker C:

Jimmy, I want to talk about Mexican dwarf crayfish fish. We've had the orange for a long time. We've got the blue. Is there any other colors coming out.

Speaker A:

That you are aware of for the Mexican dwarfs? Not that I know of. I know they have the canberras diminitis, which is the dwarf blues. And if you keep them in a lower PH, they turn like a brilliant baby blue. But if you keep in higher PH, they end up being like a grayish black. And then you have the oranges and then you have the brazils, which is the Cannebralis Texaconus. But that's the only dwarf ones that I know of right now. Unless Chris has some top secret project that he's working on.

Speaker C:

So most people keep those in a small tank with themselves and stuff. Correct. Let's talk a little bit about how they breed.

Speaker A:

It's a lot like rabbits.

Speaker C:

Like rabbits.

Speaker A:

The male pins the female down with his pincers and he goes to town to town, and then about 30 days later, some babies are born.

Speaker C:

So the babies are little miniatures.

Speaker A:

Correct.

Speaker C:

Of mommy and daddy very carnivorous at that age too. So what do you suggest? What people do when they get little baby critters is that to pull mom dad out?

Speaker A:

No, you can actually keep them all in the same one. Just take more moss and put moss in there. So you basically want to separate all the babies away from each other because when they're born, if they're born in a nice open area, they're going to kind of stay in that area. But if you start like overwhelming them with moss going to find their own area. Because I went from having like two brazils left, almost having 200 in a tank in a matter of 90 days.

Speaker C:

No kidding. So moss is absolutely the way to go.

Speaker A:

It's a good way for them to get out way and hide. I like moss.

Speaker C:

What type of moss would you suggest?

Speaker A:

Subwasterting?

Speaker C:

I use Christmas moss and Christmas moss. Do you sell that to people?

Speaker A:

I do have Christmas. Moss.

Speaker C:

Okay. Because that's a very hard one to find actually.

Speaker A:

Because it's a great aquascaping plant. When it gets full, it kind of.

Speaker C:

Weeps downwards versus upwards and make more of a grown cover.

Speaker A:

Correct. And please people, if you're going to ask for moss, don't ask for java moss. java moss is like the most common moss out there. It's ugly when it grows out. Get some really nice moss. I have people.

Speaker D:

I bet Joe would like that moss that you've got.

Speaker C:

Jim, I don't have.

Speaker A:

Why are you telling a secret?

Speaker B:

Do you still have that shit for real?

Speaker A:

Which one? hooker is no.

Speaker B:

We're convinced that some sort of like really rare mill foil. dnr sort of asked me questions about.

Speaker C:

It, I tell you.

Speaker D:

And they did.

Speaker B:

Yeah. They thought it was fascinating. They're totally all about Jimmy keeping it.

Speaker C:

Yeah. Thanks throwing me under the bus.

Speaker B:

You're welcome.

Speaker A:

See how this all works?

Speaker C:

A lot of the times during this podcast, I have to wear a helmet because they throw me under the bus so much I bumped my head on the bumper. But no. Adam has got some crazy crap that you're got it from a customer, correct, Adam?

Speaker B:

No, I got it from a guy.

Speaker D:

Who said that the only way to get rid of it was to burn it. I like illegal shit. Or stuff that is potentially illegal.

Speaker C:

It dries out.

Speaker A:

Medicinal. That's what we like to call it.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Vicious medicinal.

Speaker C:

So this stuff will dry out, and in three months, it can lay on the floor, and then you can throw it back in, and it just starts growing again. And then it talks to you at night. You walk by and goes, hey, come here. And you go, fuck you. I'm not going over there. So he's got this crazy freaking monster. He gave me a piece, and it was like I'm not kidding you. It was, like six hairs.

Speaker D:

It was, like, less than a half inch.

Speaker C:

So now I've got this.

Speaker A:

I'm sorry that you only have less than a half inch.

Speaker C:

Yeah. You should be used to it.

Speaker D:

No, I don't.

Speaker C:

So I threw it in this tank where I throw away all my I have a tank where I have all my calls and just anything that's left over, like little pieces of plant I throw in there. And this stuff just kind of interwoven into everything.

Speaker A:

Took over the whole thing.

Speaker C:

Yeah. And it talks. You've seen that? What movie was that? Where it? Feed me, seymour. Remember that?

Speaker A:

Yeah. Little shop of Horse.

Speaker C:

Yeah. Little shop.

Speaker A:

Feed me, seymour.

Speaker C:

That's what this crap is. It talks to you and you go by and stuff. So Adam gave that to me. He says, you just need a little. And I go, you mean I just need a little? I go, that's all you need is a little?

Speaker A:

Yeah. He laughed at me when I brought those up to you. He'll give me the first one for.

Speaker D:

Free, and I go, It's right there.

Speaker C:

First one? Yeah. Like your weewee couldn't even see it. So, yeah, he gave me this stuff and it took off. And then Rob thought he bring it up to the dnr, and we had him on the podcast and stuff. And so then all of a sudden, we got an airplane circling in the freaking area.

Speaker D:

You brought up to the dnr?

Speaker C:

No.

Speaker A:

Why are you so surprised? Are you doing stuff with illegal and you're trying to get everybody else in trouble?

Speaker C:

Yeah, I help them spell out your last name so they got it right.

Speaker A:

We are not drinking the fruit punch.

Speaker C:

Okay. We are not drinking.

Speaker B:

It is l hyphenated. Yes.

Speaker A:

L is?

Speaker C:

L not sure. How do you spell it? It's like go to jail.

Speaker D:

I still got a bunch.

Speaker B:

I need one hair, please. Jimmy won't share.

Speaker D:

All right, I'll bring you some next time.

Speaker B:

Thank you, dad.

Speaker D:

I'll compete hair, algae, that's whatever the hell this is.

Speaker A:

Wow.

Speaker C:

I'm sure it's highly illegal.

Speaker B:

All right.

Speaker C:

I would actually have to see a.

Speaker A:

Picture of it, and I can actually go to my plant. People that know everything about plants, and they'll tell you exactly what it is, latin name and everything gives you some no, I won't.

Speaker B:

We'll have another competition. All right. User question. What is the best way to acclimate shrimp? Toss them in, drip them or quarantine.

Speaker A:

I like to go over and drip acclimate. It depends on where you get stuff. So if you are buying shrimp that you know are imported in, you should probably do a salt dip on them and then do a drip acclimation into your tank. Don't do a plop and drop, because they have to get used to your water condition, not the water temperature.

Speaker C:

Now, how would you do a salt dip?

Speaker A:

So you take some aquarium salt, and I use, like, normal tank water. I'll take, like, a small specimen container, and I'll probably take a tablespoon of aquarium salt, drop it in there, mix it all up. Get the shrimp that I want is salt dip. Put them in there for 30 seconds, scoop them back out, put them in some fresh tank water, let them sit for a couple of minutes, and then do another salt dip. 30 seconds, take them out, rinse them off, put them in the tank. They'll get off a lot of the, like, vorticelli, the little parasite that burrows in their head.

Speaker C:

Vermicelli.

Speaker B:

I didn't I thought vermicelli was a rice.

Speaker C:

It's a noodle. Dip one.

Speaker B:

It's a noodle. Well, thank you. noodle.

Speaker D:

How does everybody know it's a noodle? But you?

Speaker C:

Yeah, Mr. Roman, I don't ask questions.

Speaker B:

I just put it in my mouth. All right. Obviously, the food goes in the mouth. All right.

Speaker C:

The lotion in the bucket.

Speaker B:

Joe, I have some serious questions for you.

Speaker A:

Where are these questions? So this question is off the top of your head, because I do not see any email with these questions.

Speaker B:

Question one.

Speaker A:

All right.

Speaker B:

When did Joe Shrimchak first start?

Speaker A:

2017.

Speaker B:

All right, so I have more questions. In Hitterdale, Minnesota, they have found red swamp crayfish, and we want to know what you were doing on the night of July.

Speaker C:

Wow.

Speaker B:

July 15, 2016.

Speaker A:

July 15, I was probably at a horse show because I used to breed horses and go to shows wisna.

Speaker B:

So do you have any experience with the red swamp crayfisher?

Speaker A:

No, I do not.

Speaker B:

So according to what happened in Minnesota is these red swamp crayfish, which are on the fringe of aquarium hobby people do keep them the picture that you see here makes it look like shit, but they actually do. They're like spiny red crayfish. They're quite cool. They were released in a Minnesota lake and have adapted to acclimate to Minnesota temperatures and have now taken over the lake.

Speaker A:

It's kind of like the whole goldfish in chaska. Did you hear about that from the dnr?

Speaker B:

About goldfish everywhere?

Speaker A:

So this is what happened three years ago. Someone, I don't know who, released some goldfish in the local stream and in chaska. Well, they made it. We have a couple of two man made lakes there and they started breeding. Minnesota Aquarium Society did harvest some, but this year this is what was so funny. The dnr harvested 5000 goldfish. They tagged 900 of those goldfish and they released them back. So they want to see what they spawn. Like, why would you release 900 from back? Why don't you just do 50? Because now you're never going to drop down the population again. 900 they tagged in the release to see where they spawn. There's only two lakes. You know what? Let's put some muskets in those and just get rid of them.

Speaker C:

Yeah. And I believe that I think that we saw pictures where they had them in when they're harvesting them. They had like pickup loads, like full.

Speaker A:

Size pickups, dump trucks. I think Minnesota Aquarium Society harvested I think it was like $500. When I say there is much as like, minnows are, that's how many there are. And they're not just like small ones. They're four, five, six inches long.

Speaker C:

And were they all compost or fan tails or what? Were they mixed? A little bit of everything.

Speaker A:

So please, people, do not go over and take your goldfish and put them in streams because they are a carp family and they will survive. joe's aqua.

Speaker B:

I know, right?

Speaker A:

He's been disqualified from shows before because he had green fungus on his shrimp.

Speaker B:

How dare he?

Speaker A:

Yeah, he's like I bought shrimp off him before. The problem you have is, according to what I understand, between Taiwan breeders and people bringing them in, you have a top tier and you have like, bottom tier, from what I heard, is towards the lower tier for quality wise on shrimp.

Speaker B:

Well, we're not about shooting on people, but that was just put in the chat. Next question from the audience is what was the big AHA moment that opened up shrimp keeping to you in the hobby?

Speaker A:

I think the fact of my ex wanted a fish aquarium and I went to Schmetco and picked up a ten gallon tank and did goldfish. And of course I told her it needs to acclimate and she didn't want to listen to me, so she needed goldfish right away. And of course they lasted a week and died. Then I went to a petco and picked up some red cherry shrimp and did some research on it. And then I saw how many people actually are involved with the shrimp hobby, and I was just like, wow. And I got into it, and I got to head deep into it. I had, like, nine tanks when I entered the International Shrimp Contest, and I won my category, and that's what did it for me. It was all over with then.

Speaker B:

It's forever. That and now picking a pokemon.

Speaker A:

Pokemon.

Speaker B:

So what's the fascination with pokemon in front of the subject?

Speaker A:

I'd say about half of my customers are in the pokemon, so I might as well get into hobby that they're into. So we have local stuff to talk about, but it is a good investment.

Speaker B:

So half of our customers are into cheetos and Mountain dew. That explains a lot to me.

Speaker D:

You don't count as a customer, Rob.

Speaker C:

You got to spend money.

Speaker B:

I'm just here accommodating my fan.

Speaker A:

Jalapeno cheetos.

Speaker B:

Jalapeno cheetos.

Speaker C:

Those are good.

Speaker A:

I could go for those right now.

Speaker B:

Heartburn. And it hurt. Hurts your asshole. I mean, what more do you want?

Speaker A:

It's all good.

Speaker C:

Wood in with a good, out with a bad.

Speaker B:

Adam, what else do you have?

Speaker D:

Do the shrimp eat that brown diatom algae, or will that kill them?

Speaker A:

They are scavengers, but this is what you got to kind of look at here. If shrimp are used to you feeding them, they're always going to go after that palate. It's like the difference between a White Castle hamburger and a flaming yarn. It's kind of like siamese algae eaters. When they're really small, they just tear up algae, but as they get bigger, they kind of just are used to eating fish food.

Speaker B:

All right, how about do you raise any bracket shrimp?

Speaker A:

No, I do not.

Speaker B:

And why not?

Speaker A:

I just don't. I like the freshwater shrimp. I like the ornamental shrimp.

Speaker B:

But yet you have saltwater in here.

Speaker A:

That is not my tank. That's someone else's tank. Really?

Speaker B:

Yes. Sell it to me.

Speaker A:

Tyler from Bulk Reef.

Speaker B:

He just like, you know, I need something in here so we can be friends.

Speaker C:

Oh, no.

Speaker A:

He got in trouble on one of the Bulk Reef, the Brstv videos, when the owner went by and said, wait, you're only supposed to have two tanks, and he counted four of them at his desk, so he moved one to mine, and he set up another tank at his place. His concept was if all the water was tied together, it counts as one tank.

Speaker C:

Absolutely.

Speaker D:

That is an invaluable logic.

Speaker A:

The owner did not think so.

Speaker C:

And four tanks is what a nice.

Speaker A:

Start for a desk. Yeah, I think right now he's got a 65 gallon jbj tank. He's got a coral tank, and he's got a shrimp tank, and I think he's got another aquascape. So, yeah, he's got a lot of tanks. And the tank that he set up at my place is a 50 breeder. So he took away the 50 breeder, and now he's got a 65 jbj tank there.

Speaker C:

My boss wouldn't notice.

Speaker A:

Well, we sent him the 65 gallon tank, so it's actually jbj sent poke Reef one to set up and it got set up at his desk.

Speaker C:

Sounds good to me.

Speaker A:

Oops, that he's my friend.

Speaker B:

Another listener question. What kind of advice do you have for hobbyists who want to make the best investment in shrimp? What do you expect to remain high demand for years to come?

Speaker A:

We got the basic bread and butter. So if you're going to start looking at getting in the hobby for shrimp, it's deciding what you want. Do you want to do neocaradinas or do you want to do caradinas? My best advice that I could give you is if you do caradinas by the high end of the grading wise form. Like if you do blue Bolt, don't do blue bolts a grade. Just do the blue bolt extreme. Get the best that's out there right there, because through generations they're going to color down too. So you can get multiple colors versus trying to get a low grade one and be like, oh, I really hope I'm going to get a high grade one. It's just not going to happen. That's my advice. If I could go back in time, that's what I would do. I wouldn't I'd start with the low grade stuff. I'd start with just the higher grade stuff. You pay a little bit more for it, but it's worth the main.

Speaker C:

Now I know you travel overseas to fishermen. Give me a description of the commercial shrimp hatchery, if you call it a hatchery.

Speaker A:

Well, it's a lot of breeders. So picture someone's basement, and this is rows and rows of usually 20 gallon tanks. And what they'll do is they'll breed a specific line here. Once they release, their babies will take them, they'll put them in the second tank and they just keep on going down the line. So then the first tank, when they're ready to sell, they saw the first tank and they just work their way down.

Speaker C:

So it's just an assembly line kind of, yes. And so are they grabbing the adults out then and keep moving them down the line?

Speaker A:

Correct.

Speaker C:

I've heard that called line breeding.

Speaker A:

Line breeding, yes.

Speaker C:

Okay. How many of they start out with in a tank?

Speaker A:

It all depends on breeders. I've seen people do 20 breeders and they put usually around maybe like 100. There's not that many males in there. It's mostly females because the males for the striping are really sought after because that's what holds the majority of the genetics. And it only takes one or two males to get all those females pregnant. So it's a lot easier just to keep on transferring the specific male that you want over and over and over.

Speaker C:

And so when you are purchasing fish from overseas in a bag and you get 150 or 200 or 100 fish or 100 shrimp, how many do they send? You are they sending both males and females or they it depends.

Speaker A:

So usually when you purchase shrimp overseas, they have juvies males and females. So they always say that as juvies they can't sex them, which isn't really true. It goes by the rostrom, their antenna. If their antenna is as big as their body, it's a male. If the rostrum is longer than their body, it's a female. And they've got very good at how quick they can look at that and scoop. So you have some breeders that you could order 100 shrimp and you will get all males on the caradina and then on the neocardinas you will get all females and not no males because they don't want you to breed them.

Speaker C:

So they're saving back their males and releasing females. I know, like petco. I'm sorry? Pet smart. When you go to purchase a hamster, all they do is sell all male hamsters. All male guinea pigs?

Speaker D:

Yeah, but every PetSmart is different. So you can go down 20 miles.

Speaker A:

Down the road and they'll sell all the females. Why are you defending PetSmart?

Speaker C:

Yeah, I'm not. Are you a big box conspirator guy?

Speaker A:

Dude, you were so quick. He was like in mid thought of trying to say something and you were just like you superinterrupted him. You're back to putting the blanket over your head.

Speaker B:

I'm just glad they're shooting on you for a while.

Speaker C:

It puts the lotion in the bucket.

Speaker B:

We're going to go and crawl on our hole.

Speaker C:

That's what kills me. You go to the big box stores and we're all going to sell nothing but males and you go, Why is that? Well, we don't want to encourage breeding. So where are you getting your stuff? People. You know what I mean? Apparently somebody's breeding it for you. What's that matter to you?

Speaker A:

That's where it's frustrating for myself. I try and do a lot of the breeding, but of course certain species like the PFRs and stuff, I cannot keep up with the quantity that's being sold. So I have to bring them in by good breeders that are out there. And I always make sure I'm like, hey, these are like mixed mixed sex and oh yeah, 100%. They're mixed sex. And I'll get a bag and I'm like, yep. There's no sausage in these neo's. They're all females, but remarkably majority of the females are pregnant. So then in a matter of days, I have thousands of babies in my tank.

Speaker B:

You ever have shrimp change sex on you?

Speaker A:

No.

Speaker B:

Not, like, betas or something.

Speaker A:

No. They say that shrimp do that. They say that shrimp are born males and they can convert over to females. But from what I understand from the Taiwan breeders, it's the roster of the antenna that they go by.

Speaker B:

You don't give them the Village people sauce and change it up?

Speaker A:

No, I don't do the Village people. Sorry.

Speaker C:

Sounds a lot like Bruce jenner.

Speaker A:

Well, really quiet there.

Speaker B:

I was hoping for a wheaties joke.

Speaker C:

These guys don't know who Bruce jenner is. Probably. They're like, what?

Speaker B:

Don't you mean caitlyn? Oh, caitlin jenner. Oh, thank goodness.

Speaker C:

God.

Speaker A:

Bruce jenner.

Speaker B:

I thought Bruce died years.

Speaker A:

Bruce jenner when he gave talks was $50,000. caitlyn jenner. Now it's like $250,000.

Speaker B:

She knows what's up.

Speaker C:

I might tuck it in, too. I don't know.

Speaker B:

Hey, we've all done it. Stand in front of the mirror, tuck it in. pretend you're a surfer.

Speaker C:

No, we have not all done that. What's you that is you. Do you remember the scene from Silence the lambs where the guy does that and then he sings?

Speaker B:

Wait, was that a real thing?

Speaker C:

Beautiful. Yeah.

Speaker B:

I now need to see Silence of the Lamb.

Speaker C:

You've never seen Silence to lambs?

Speaker A:

Never.

Speaker C:

Well, then that's why every time I see you put the lotion in the bucket, you go, what?

Speaker B:

Oh, I know the meme. That was from that movie.

Speaker A:

How beautiful.

Speaker C:

That guy that did that movie won awards. I can't remember what he got, but I think he won, like, an Oscar for doing that when he was part.

Speaker A:

Of the dancing his wuha.

Speaker C:

Because he was so freaked out. And even jodie Foster said he was so freaky, nobody even talked to him.

Speaker A:

And he was very unique in it.

Speaker C:

Yeah. And put the lotion on the scavenger.

Speaker B:

I feel like he tried to mix a little macho man randy savage with.

Speaker A:

That one when he freaked out on her. Freaked out on her. It was like, damn, I don't want to be in his dungeon.

Speaker B:

I need to watch that movie. Apparently, yes.

Speaker C:

If you have nothing to lambs or stripes, you need to do that.

Speaker B:

I lost them.

Speaker A:

What's?

Speaker C:

Adam lost, too.

Speaker B:

Did you lose us?

Speaker A:

Did you interrupt us again?

Speaker C:

Adam, are you there? Adam?

Speaker B:

Adam lost us.

Speaker C:

Adam?

Speaker A:

Adam, are you playing with your testicles? Adam? Don't answer. If you are, blink twice.

Speaker B:

We'll let him continue.

Speaker C:

Wait a minute. Adam, have you been kidnapped?

Speaker A:

God, did the irs finally catch up to you? Or the dnr with your illegal moss?

Speaker C:

That's right. adam's face is frozen on our refresh. Him.

Speaker B:

Actually, it might be our Internet, but since we have Joe here in person, who cares?

Speaker A:

But he did say we lost them. So did everybody lose us? And we're the only ones here right now.

Speaker B:

I think we're the only ones here.

Speaker C:

And we're talking to ourselves.

Speaker A:

Look, we're talking to ourselves.

Speaker B:

Anyway, we're doing great.

Speaker A:

We're doing great. That's how we're doing. Great.

Speaker C:

Of course. That Billy idol.

Speaker B:

All right, so what is the secret to breeding a mono shrimp?

Speaker A:

A mono shrimp?

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker A:

You need brackish water.

Speaker B:

So but tell us the process, because we hear we need brackish water and then people go, oh, I'm not going to try it.

Speaker A:

Here's the thing.

Speaker C:

I want to try it.

Speaker A:

Here's the thing. Give me instructions if you have all these breeders, germany, Taiwan, America, if none of those breeders are breeding a mono shrimp, they're not breeding them for a reason. It's not worth it the time and hassle into it to breed your mono shrimp.

Speaker B:

Well, I just want to do it just to check my little box so I can go to my fish club and go, I did one more thing.

Speaker C:

That's me.

Speaker A:

You might as well just give them a cry.

Speaker B:

You get it now? rubbing in your face.

Speaker C:

Ha.

Speaker B:

Another thing. You have a red night.

Speaker C:

That's okay. I can just make one phone call and have a bag of 250 here on Monday.

Speaker B:

Right?

Speaker C:

And they're $0.63 wholesale.

Speaker A:

Yeah, they're cheap. It's kind of like gold shrimp. Everyday I'm going to breathe these gold shrimp.

Speaker B:

A mono shrimp have won over $6 in most places when there used to be two.

Speaker A:

Yeah, but there's wholesale versus retail.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

So wholesale must have went up.

Speaker A:

Some of you tend not to give our secrets away.

Speaker C:

I have the same lists.

Speaker A:

You gave it to them?

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker C:

God damn. No.

Speaker A:

So a mono shrimp for wholesale is pretty cheap, same as gold shrimp. So nobody really breathes those anymore because they need the brackish water. So in theory, you would have your fresh water tank. You'd have a separate tank that has brackish water. You basically tell when the female is pregnant. You wait the 28 days she can release. You scoop up the larvae because they are larvae, not shrimp.

Speaker C:

What?

Speaker B:

Help yourself.

Speaker A:

We're just having a party over here. Sorry, they had to come down.

Speaker B:

That was my wife. She confirmed that the Internet went poopoo.

Speaker A:

Oh, so it is just us.

Speaker B:

It is just us. We are alone. Don't worry. We're still recording.

Speaker C:

Damn it.

Speaker A:

That's okay.

Speaker C:

I don't have to edit this shit. What do I care anyways?

Speaker B:

A mono shrimp, so once you see that they're loading, you usually wait for.

Speaker A:

Like 28 days, let them release in their tank, and then it's like little larvae. They're not shrimpies, they're just little larvae. Scoop the larvae, put them in the brackish, and then oh, so you don't.

Speaker B:

Even transfer the adult into the transfer the adult.

Speaker A:

But you really have to be specific of when you get when she's pregnant, when she's going to release.

Speaker B:

So when the little adults can't take it.

Speaker A:

Correct. When the little larvae turns into a shrimp, then you have to acclimate them over to freshwater. So you see all the time consuming of trying to see when a larvae turns into a shrimp to transfer it over versus just buying one.

Speaker B:

So that kind of hurts my brain because I've had brackish tanks. I put them on a shrimp in there and they've lived full lives. So it just more or less can be difficult when they're already acclimated. I don't remember, probably some magical PH.

Speaker A:

Like a pinch.

Speaker B:

Oh, no. Like full on brackish fish.

Speaker A:

Like full on 1.1 brackish.

Speaker B:

Right? Like halfway to salt that's brackish.

Speaker C:

That's farther than halfway.

Speaker B:

Halfway to salt.

Speaker A:

1.1 is like three quarters of the way to salt water because Saltwater is 1.26.

Speaker B:

I don't remember what it was. I used the hydrometer. The brewers one. All the people are calling.

Speaker C:

Get them.

Speaker B:

Get him back on the horn, Jimmy.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker B:

Hold them out to the mic. Put them on speaker.

Speaker A:

Speaker.

Speaker C:

What up, dude? Not much.

Speaker D:

You guys disappeared?

Speaker A:

No, we're still here.

Speaker B:

The Internet pooped and we're going to continue. And we're almost done.

Speaker A:

Okay, thanks for interrupting us. Now we have to rerecord the whole thing.

Speaker B:

Adam, tell the fans that are listening in how much you love them.

Speaker D:

I love the fans. And you're on my speaker so they can hear you.

Speaker A:

And you're on our speaker, too.

Speaker B:

Good deal. bye, Adam.

Speaker D:

Bye. I guess that's a wrap.

Speaker B:

So they can.

Speaker A:

Adam, I'm going to tell you this again. If you hit the disconnect button one more time, cut your finger. Bath water is going to be brown chocolate water getting sent to you. So it wasn't us guys. It was Adam hitting the disconnect button.

Speaker B:

That's what it was.

Speaker D:

How did I do it?

Speaker C:

Because you're magically delicious.

Speaker A:

Because you get the magic cape over your head almost.

Speaker B:

Oh, here it is. I think the government got them.

Speaker D:

That's what I'm going with.

Speaker B:

Someone called the goon squad. All right, we won't mention that name. And I saw that name and I'm.

Speaker C:

Going, why does it say Coronavirus?

Speaker B:

Okay, here we go.

Speaker C:

It didn't say coronavirus.

Speaker B:

One more question from the audience. There is little to no information on shrimp breeding in regards to how fast they reproduce. Typically speaking, how quickly will a female raise up a clutch of eggs and roughly how many shrimplets per clutch?

Speaker A:

All right, so it's usually 25 to 28 days she'll release, usually within the last week. You can start seeing the little eyes and the eggs, they can breed every 30 days. And it depends on the shrimp because usually the first time mom, they won't have that many eggs. They might even drop the eggs. But as they get more experience holding the clutch, they'll get more and more and more. I've had a female where the clutch was as big as her body. She looked like a fat wood tick. Her name was bertha. She's beautiful till she died.

Speaker B:

How long did she live?

Speaker A:

About two years.

Speaker B:

That's a long old trim.

Speaker A:

She bred a lot. She was my baby maker. She was my octopus mom, octo mom or whatever.

Speaker C:

October.

Speaker B:

Don't ever google octomom naked.

Speaker A:

I'm worth it. bacon strips.

Speaker B:

I got in trouble with my wife. She opened my phone, but what the hell are you been looking at?

Speaker A:

Bacon strips.

Speaker B:

I was with my buddies. I never knew her of akama before.

Speaker C:

Really?

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

It wasn't right afterwards.

Speaker C:

Now there's a couple of stretch marks on that.

Speaker A:

You cannot go back from that.

Speaker B:

There's a whole lot of frankenstein scars.

Speaker A:

But you got to. Say because you have female listeners to giving birth is a beautiful thing. And just because women give birth and if they get a little bit big and they have stretch marks, we don't look at them that way.

Speaker B:

Why can't they just be like guys who get like, stretch marks?

Speaker A:

We're talking octavia lifting. We're talking octo mom guys. She literally looked like she had a sheep attached to her belly just sticking straight out. It was just not right.

Speaker C:

She gave birth to what? Eight to the litter.

Speaker A:

Eight to the lite it's a litter.

Speaker C:

At eight, it's a litter.

Speaker A:

It was a lot.

Speaker B:

Literally shocking.

Speaker C:

And then she ran into rough times and had to do porn.

Speaker A:

Boom.

Speaker C:

Chicken.

Speaker B:

I feel like at that note.

Speaker C:

The.

Speaker A:

Father is running for governor in Arizona.

Speaker C:

What?

Speaker B:

He's got to do something for his money.

Speaker A:

He's been on a lot of Facebook videos of he's Republican, so he's going really gangbuster against the Democrats where they've been like, do we'll rescue you if you do not leave here?

Speaker B:

Wait, is he also a Catholic, by any chance? Yeah, anytime you have twelve or more kids.

Speaker A:

He's got a lot of kids.

Speaker C:

A lot of kids.

Speaker A:

That's a lot of diapers.

Speaker C:

As long as we're talking about politics no, I don't talk politics.

Speaker B:

Thank you.

Speaker C:

But here's something close to my heart. So the state of Oklahoma has on its books right now, they want to vote about starting a bigfoot hunting license. You can actually how much is that going to cost? I don't know. But yeah, this is the state of Oklahoma. And why are they shooting my bigfoot? Because I like the bigfoot. I like them running around. She likes the bigfoot, too. Yeah.

Speaker B:

Adam, you got any other questions? Hey, Joe, since you were gone?

Speaker D:

Yeah, I do, actually. You know how you said that that female BirthA would drop huge litters? Is that a genetic thing? Did you save some of her kids and see if they drop huge litters, too, or no?

Speaker A:

Well, as time goes by, the more and more that they get pregnant, the more they learn to fan their eggs so they can hold more. Okay. But it's typically 30 to 35. But if you're looking every 30 days, that's a lot of babies. Yeah, just place them berry white. Key in berry white.

Speaker B:

So the last question. Yeah. What is this magical medicinal remedy that I hear about some of the people raving on discord about? It's like a powder thing. It's kind of like a cure all for shrimp. Exactly. They tell me all types of things.

Speaker A:

For what? I have not heard anything different.

Speaker B:

Shrimp, diseases, all kinds of goodies.

Speaker C:

Okay.

Speaker B:

Your favorite little shrimp out of coca.

Speaker C:

From the coca plant coca.

Speaker A:

So there is a medicated food out there that a few of us are testing for the green fungus. It's called tima care. I've had good results on three shrimp. It takes over a month to treat the shrimp. You see it once a week. But before we really say, hey, this is a cure all for green fungus, we need more research on it. But otherwise there is a product called Z One for hydro and plenary as well, too.

Speaker B:

I think Z One is what they were referring to as some of the.

Speaker A:

Cures that sell in the forms for hydra and plenary. It's all natural.

Speaker B:

All natural?

Speaker A:

All natural. Well, that's what it says in the instructions, all natural. But I will say this right now, I love the esso aqua line, not as much as I love Shrimp King, but there are instructions in the back on some of the stuff you should not follow. You should actually ask the expert that you're dealing with of how to dose it and how long to keep it in your tank, because it says keep it in there for a week. And I do not believe in that. It's 48 hours before you do your water change because it's a lot of ammonia, it's going to get released in the tank.

Speaker B:

They must be doing huge your tanks than two and a half gallons.

Speaker A:

Well, it's even ten gallons. It's a one level scoop for a ten gallon tank. So you use it to treat plenary and hydra. Well, if it has detritus worms in your tank too, it's going to kill off all the hydra and planaria and detritus worms. So picture this. You dose it in your tank and in 24 hours, all that stuff dying. And you keep it in your tank for a week, you're going to have dead trim. So do water change after 48 hours?

Speaker C:

Let's talk about the hydro dehydra. Let's talk about the worms quickly. Little white worms that go on the front of my glass.

Speaker A:

Detritus worms. So hydra has the arrow shaped heads?

Speaker C:

Yes. And how do you get rid of those?

Speaker A:

You dose with C One or Dog Dewarmer works too.

Speaker C:

Dog dewormer. Will that affect the shrimp?

Speaker A:

No, it will not. So it's usually one pinch of doggy worm. Just crush it up to a nice fine powder, sprinkle it on top and let it kind of drift all over. 48 hours to do a water change.

Speaker C:

And where do these things come from.

Speaker A:

That we don't really know?

Speaker B:

A lot of people can get them.

Speaker A:

From plants, like if they buy plants from people that already had hydra in their tank. But if you kind of look at if I set up a brand new tank and I use our water to set up my tank, and I have brand new soil, brand new filter, how do I get those little squiggly Detroit just worms in there? Is it in the soil? Is it one of those things nobody really knows?

Speaker C:

Yeah, the little squiggly worms that are free swimming.

Speaker A:

They look like little threads, right?

Speaker C:

And I've had luck where I'll throw in like two neon tetras.

Speaker A:

Oh, yeah, they'll gobble them up, and.

Speaker C:

They'Ll gobble them up and stuff, and I'll leave them there for a day and then pull them, because once those little worms are gone, they'll start hunting baby shrimp and whatnot. But I've never got anything to kill the damn worms that are stuck to the side. Yes.

Speaker A:

Z One will do that zone.

Speaker C:

Well, now I know something I didn't know earlier.

Speaker A:

I'll have to bring some up here.

Speaker C:

I know a guy that will take.

Speaker B:

Guy, plenty of guys. All right, Adam, last shot.

Speaker A:

Why are you chuckling over there, Adam?

Speaker D:

I'm good.

Speaker A:

Why are you chuckling? Why are you shaking your head?

Speaker B:

Because he's got Z three.

Speaker C:

He does not have any freaking pants on. That's why. We can only see him from the waist up. He's looking down. He's giggling and going, look at that.

Speaker A:

I got a half inch. I do. Yeah.

Speaker C:

Okay. It is cold out.

Speaker B:

He's playing with the shallow wood.

Speaker A:

Not, like, six inches.

Speaker C:

We'd really appreciate it to Adam if your wife would start on another painting, because there's no painting behind you tonight to look at.

Speaker A:

She should do a painting, and you just have the big old balls and a nice little eiffel Tower coming out from the top of it and just put it on there for a podcast and see if anybody notices that.

Speaker C:

Exactly. Or get yourself a blank canvas and just lay your junk on it and trace yourself and put it up, see if anybody notices.

Speaker D:

All right, I'll work on that.

Speaker B:

Well, last question for Joe. The audience wants to know because we have worked very hard on making sure that your business is appropriately represented in the advertisements. So the fans are the ones that actually come up with the ideas. Most of them actually have been in a lot of the advertisements, so they desperately want to know, what are a few of your favorites?

Speaker C:

They want to know, where's the damn check?

Speaker A:

Where'S the damn check?

Speaker C:

How come you have not sent me any money?

Speaker B:

No, they get their check from 15% off promo code.

Speaker C:

Oh, there we go.

Speaker A:

That's right. But I will say, if listeners are listening and you walk into the store, be Kindful that this is a family run establishment and don't come walking into the store saying, talking about my six inches of cholawood. There's a little girl there, and her mom. And then try and justify it by saying, hey, she's just a little girl. She doesn't understand it, but her mom does.

Speaker C:

Obviously. Here, she wouldn't have a little girl.

Speaker A:

I'm not saying no names, but I know he's going to be listening to this right here. Age appropriate family run store. Yes, I'm talking to you. And you've been in there a few times. Adam is like, does he talk to me? It wasn't you, Adam.

Speaker C:

No.

Speaker B:

But what are some of your favorite advertisements?

Speaker C:

Was that my wife?

Speaker A:

No. I like the Don cholo. I like that one.

Speaker B:

That one was a hit I really liked.

Speaker A:

That was funny. And then you had was the proctologist.

Speaker B:

That was great.

Speaker A:

That was kind of unique on that one, too.

Speaker B:

Unique.

Speaker A:

Rob always goes over and says, hey, did you listen to podcast yet?

Speaker B:

Oh, no, it's always a bad one.

Speaker A:

It's like, you got to go listen to it. I'm like, oh, God, what now? And then I'll listen to it. I'm like, all right. That's pretty funny right there.

Speaker B:

You got to keep up with your own memes. That way when people are inappropriate in your store.

Speaker C:

You know what?

Speaker A:

I don't even like on Discord. I'm afraid of the memes. So I don't even go on that whole entire meme thing. I don't even want to see it. I see the notifications.

Speaker B:

You are our Bernie Sanders.

Speaker A:

The thing is, I click it to clear up the notification, but I don't look at them because I'm afraid to, because I'll be like, oh, that mother said what?

Speaker C:

We're going to get you some shrimp.

Speaker A:

I will find your real name. Don't hide behind discord.

Speaker B:

I will find your real name.

Speaker C:

We're going to get some shrimp mittens.

Speaker A:

I do have that new meme with Bernie on there in Forest gump.

Speaker C:

Did you see that?

Speaker B:

You're not on Facebook?

Speaker C:

No, my wife shows me stuff. And I also saw Bernie in a bathtub with Prince.

Speaker A:

That was pretty cool. Wow.

Speaker C:

And you remember the old Kiss album from Kiss Alive, too, and it showed the audience and stuff. You got Bernie out in the audience sitting in there.

Speaker A:

I saw what was it the Fatal was it Fatal Attraction with the blonde that's being interviewed?

Speaker C:

Yes.

Speaker A:

And she uncrosses her legs. They literally put Bernie right there.

Speaker B:

Right where the going to the petrol candle.

Speaker A:

I was like, sit there going, that's actually a funny one. I actually like that one. That's pretty cool.

Speaker C:

I'm going to go home and look for that right now.

Speaker A:

So I expect I will find it for you.

Speaker B:

For you, mimers. You need to make the twisted iced tea. Except it's Joe that smacks a bottle of Z one and out of his face.

Speaker A:

That would be a good one. I like the whole, like, there was pokemon on here.

Speaker C:

That was the government coming in.

Speaker A:

I just literally picked up my phone right now, and it's because we talked about pokemon and it came up all over.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

So I'm going to go to the meme because someone posted like, hey, everybody, let me see your best Bernie memes. And I'm like, oh, definitely. That's the Bernie sleeper. Oh, we can keep on that talking. everybody's kind of staring at me while I look at this.

Speaker B:

I'm just waiting for a Joe Shrimp Shack version.

Speaker A:

There is one. Have you seen it on my Facebook yet?

Speaker B:

I have.

Speaker A:

So that is the Joel shrimp shack version. I don't really work with a lot of good cameras and everything else and computers. So if you want to do a whole Joe Shrimp Shack with the old.

Speaker B:

Twisted t and everything yeah, I'm telling you, like, Z One and then have them smack in the face like Adam.

Speaker A:

If you guys do some, like, appropriate things for family, like kids are going to because kids do go on my Facebook and they do look at this stuff. If you do some, like, appropriate means and stuff, Joe, I will share them.

Speaker B:

I notice how nervous he is to Joe, our audience.

Speaker C:

How about Joe pulling up on a Z 28, delivering some Z One? There you go.

Speaker A:

I like that one, too. how's going on, Bernie with the twisted.

Speaker B:

Teeth in his mitts? Well, Joe, thanks for coming on, buddy.

Speaker A:

Thanks for having me here. It was a beautiful three hour trip, and unfortunately, there was no pokemon all the way up here.

Speaker B:

I will try to make do with making that up to you. I have magic, if that's any consolation.

Speaker A:

I even called at one store today and I left a message, we'll get.

Speaker B:

You into some cardboard crack.

Speaker A:

Cardboard crack?

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

I don't do drugs, so I'm asking to do cardboard crack.

Speaker B:

Well, until then, ladies and gentlemen, you can find Joe from his Shrimp Shack. At Joe Shrimp shack.com. The promo code bathwater is still valid for all until the end of January. Then you can just go buy it on your own for I think, what was it?

Speaker A:

$5 each.

Speaker C:

$5.

Speaker B:

$5 shrimp bathwater.

Speaker C:

Or else you can go out in the dumpster behind this place and just take it.

Speaker A:

No, maverick, if you challenge me, I will make you a special item in the Joe Shrimp Shack page under Odds. And that's actually a nice salt water one.

Speaker C:

I like.

Speaker B:

That one is Bernie.

Speaker A:

If you do challenge me, I will come up with something that we get Rob quite well with. Oh, no. Yeah.

Speaker B:

I already have multiple cases of cholo wood sitting in my basement.

Speaker C:

I'm going to grab some of the window.

Speaker B:

We're going to make Lincoln Log Houses until together until next kind of time. Guys, if you like the podcast, we're happy to be back, but we still need to keep the lights on. Go to according to the podcast.com. Give us a couple of bucks, help this guy out. Use a promo code. It helps keep the lights on. And we'll see you next week. Thanks, guys, for listening to the podcast. Please go to your favorite place where podcasts are found, whether it be spotify, itunes, stitcher, wherever they can be found, like subscribe. And make sure you get push notifications directly to your phone so you don't miss great content like this.

Speaker A:

But I went to 711 and there were these two girls that were there, and I couldn't just believe what happened when I bought my slushie.

Speaker C:

Right, exactly. And she spilled some on her white shirt and she said, would you like to get it off.

Speaker A:

What? What? Wood.

Episode Notes

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