#79 – Out of the Tank Series: Fish Songs?

FEAT SMOKIN JOE

2 years ago
Transcript
Speaker A:

Hey, guys. We want to introduce a new sponsor to the podcast, j Four Flowerhorns.com. If you're looking for the most amazing flowerhorn, go no further than the awardwinning flowerhorns at J Four Flowerhorns.com. Get a piece of the extreme. In your tank, you'll see breathtaking flower horns that you've never seen before. For those that don't know, the ball on the front of the of the flower horn is a cock. So get some monster cock. Use promo code Aquarium guys at checkout for 10% off. Amazing, award winning flowerhorns only found at J four flowerhorns.com. Guys, one more note before the podcast. We are growing as a podcast, but one of our main editor of the podcast had to step down Scrapjaw. He's done a fantastic job. He's been editing the podcast episodes since, I think around episode 20. And he had some life circumstances. And number one, we want to thank Scrapjaw for his dedication and hard work. But also know that there is an editing job. If anybody's available, certainly email us at the bottom of the website aquariumgeyspodcast.com. We'd love to get your applications. It's again, very part time thing to edit episodes. So certainly contact us. No experience required. Can't wait to see the applications, guys. We're happy to train. Let's kick that podcast.

Speaker B:

Welcome to the aquarium, guys. Podcast.

Speaker A:

All right, Jimmy.

Speaker C:

Yes.

Speaker A:

Time.

Speaker C:

It's time for What Out of the.

Speaker A:

Tank series that people love so much.

Speaker C:

Really? What are we going to do?

Speaker A:

We we've done out of the Tank series for a bunch of different topics that are on the fringe of the hobby. This is our most fringiest of fringe topic.

Speaker C:

We've done some fringiest shit.

Speaker A:

We've done some fringey shit. But this is going to be some top fringey shit. Cool.

Speaker C:

We just lost half our listeners just now.

Speaker A:

If you think we got a couple of people that message us with some tasteful reviews because they don't understand that we have fun episodes and we have informational episodes. So if you're listening, this is not an informational episode. If you want to have a deep dive on some fish topic or think you can learn about more about fish, this is not that episode. Besides the first couple of minutes answering.

Speaker C:

Questions, I've got some great stuff today. And go ahead with what you got there.

Speaker A:

Well, first of all, I'm Rob Zulson.

Speaker C:

Hey, I'm Jim colby.

Speaker D:

And I'm Adam Ellen Nashari.

Speaker A:

So today for the topic that we're going to have, I'll introduce our guest in a minute. I've had multiple people message us that we should do an episode covering some topics about the extremities that people go through for their pen hobby, what they do to really represent the fish community. And also in another camp, I've had people message me, you should do something for people that are affected by COVID, because people think that fish stores were greatly affected by COVID, and they were. Their sales went up.

Speaker C:

So it's pretty accurate. If they could have got stuff, they could have sold even more.

Speaker A:

So to try to hit two birds with 1 st. I was watching some advertisements on Facebook, like I absolutely never do, and a video pops up while I'm taking a shit.

Speaker C:

More information than we know on your.

Speaker A:

Phone when you're swiping up and you don't know what the hell's going on, and suddenly you remember that your volume was on and it just starts blaring music. That's kind of what happened, but it caught my attention. This fine gentleman next to us, Smoke and Joe. How are you?

Speaker B:

Oh, I'm doing very well. Warmed up now.

Speaker A:

All warmed up?

Speaker B:

All warmed up.

Speaker A:

It's 32 below this morning.

Speaker B:

Yeah, I guess it was only maybe 18 below in Minneapolis, so it was a heat wave over there.

Speaker A:

I'm thankful you got to unstick your balls from the metal cushion.

Speaker B:

Yes, absolutely.

Speaker A:

I'm glad you two are close already.

Speaker B:

I put on some real jeans and went out of the house today.

Speaker A:

We touched tips earlier you missed.

Speaker B:

I don't want to know about this bonding ritual.

Speaker C:

No, that's why I always come late.

Speaker A:

Joe'S advertisement, which you guys have probably heard a few episodes before, came up and I was just, like, beside myself. Number one, the ingenuity of what you're doing, sir, during COVID is fantastic. And if you haven't listened to it again, I think the ads on the front of this podcast otherwise, go to episodes before and you'll hear Smoke and joe's advertisement on making you a pet song specifically for your fish.

Speaker B:

A song for your pet. About your pet.

Speaker C:

About my pet.

Speaker B:

About your pet.

Speaker A:

Right. So you can find after this, I'm going to pay this gentleman next to us, because, number one, he's on the hustle, right? I'm going to make him write a song about Jimmy wasting $8,000 in getting started with the hobby. So it'll be great.

Speaker C:

He doesn't have a song about you killed an $800 marijuana. You see.

Speaker A:

Look at all the options we can do with this gentleman. We can make it or you choke.

Speaker D:

To death on food. That's how I figured you got the.

Speaker B:

Song right there, right?

Speaker A:

Or a gentleman getting stung by venomous creatures.

Speaker C:

That's funny. Or yet.

Speaker A:

Either way.

Speaker B:

It is funny.

Speaker C:

It is.

Speaker A:

We have a gentleman to write us a song. So I just got so many questions for you. But let's put a pause on that, though.

Speaker B:

I got all time.

Speaker A:

Thank you for coming. We'll get a deep dive, we'll interview you a bit and then have our little concert.

Speaker B:

Yes, I'll play some tunes.

Speaker A:

Hell, yes. So, Jimmy, what do you have before we get into questions?

Speaker C:

Well, I came across a really interesting article and I sent it to you, you and Adam, and no response.

Speaker A:

Totally read it. It was hilarious.

Speaker C:

He didn't read it. He didn't know.

Speaker A:

What's a cracker.

Speaker C:

What's a Cracker barrel.

Speaker A:

It's the most delicious place to get breakfast because denny's sucks ass.

Speaker C:

Okay, so here's an article that came.

Speaker A:

Out and ironically racist. How did it not get canceled by.

Speaker D:

Yeah, denny's is racist.

Speaker A:

No. Cracker Barrel is racist.

Speaker C:

What about samples? Oh, Cracker sambos barrel.

Speaker A:

Is it? No, I mean, we have kfc, so it's delicious that way, apparently.

Speaker C:

So anyway, I just wanted to read you this because when I read this, I chuckled the whole thing through. And I read it to my wife while we were driving this weekend and I read it to her and she had several questions. But so anyway, this is out of the New York Post, and the headlines are teen reunites with his pet rooster after losing it at an Alabama Cracker Barrel. All right. It was a happy ending for the teen and his chicken. Mississippi teen was recently reunited with his pet rooster after it went missing in the parking lot of a cracker barrel in Alabama. Imagine that. So Thomas ramsay, he's an 18 year old guy. He was headed home from a Civil War reenactment in Spring Hill, Tennessee.

Speaker A:

This this is the best part.

Speaker C:

And he stopped for lunch at a cracker barrel in Coleman, Alabama, with his friends and his rooster. And the rooster's name is Peep. I love it. Peep. This is on January 31. So ramsay told the outlet he left the rooster on a leash tied to his truck, as he's done many, many times before.

Speaker A:

And then he drove off.

Speaker C:

No.

Speaker A:

Oh, okay. I just want to make sure not that movie.

Speaker C:

And he went inside to the restaurant with his friends. When the group returned to the car an hour later, peep was gone. The frickin chicken was gone. So he went back into the cracker barrel, and this is him quoting. He says, it was very hard for me to say this with a straight face, even though I was panicking. I said to the cracker barrel, do you have a camera in the parking lot? I think someone stole my chicken.

Speaker A:

Wasn't eaten or fried.

Speaker C:

Every time we go to cracker Barrel, my wife has chicken and dumplings. I'm just telling you that right now. So anyway, he drove around the area several times looking for Peep and even checked a local farmer's chicken coop with no luck. Like, maybe Peep was over there hanging out some of those. Well, sure. So, fortunately, about 30 minutes away from his home, ramsey received good news that a man found Peep in the parking lot of the cracker barrel he visited earlier. Farmer John Watson drove with Peep all the way to Birmingham, where the rooster was reunited with ramsay. And the farmer, John Watson said, I believe in paying it forward. And he told the Coleman Times, because it made the newspaper, of course, he goes, yes, it was just a chicken, but it was his, and he clearly cared for it. I just thought, what a wonderful story that somebody got reunited with their chicken and it's still live and not on a freaking plate.

Speaker A:

I'm just glad I'm not the only one that lost my cock at Cracker.

Speaker C:

Barrel, so that was from the New York Post.

Speaker D:

We still haven't found it.

Speaker E:

Forgot.

Speaker C:

Yeah, it's still tiny.

Speaker B:

Lost my cocket. Cracker Barrel. Sounds like a song to me.

Speaker C:

That'd be a country western song, actually.

Speaker A:

We have so much work for you.

Speaker B:

I have done all the genres. It's insane.

Speaker C:

You country, too.

Speaker B:

I do, yeah.

Speaker C:

Have you ever played country backwards?

Speaker A:

Not recently.

Speaker C:

You know what happens when you play country music backwards?

Speaker B:

What happens?

Speaker C:

Get your truck back. You get your girlfriend back, you get your job back. Get the dog.

Speaker B:

Yeah. Dog comes back.

Speaker C:

Yeah. Just educating. That's what we're here for, right?

Speaker A:

There goes three more country viewers.

Speaker C:

I don't care.

Speaker B:

Long live everybody.

Speaker D:

Down south is probably froze out because they don't know how to deal with cold weather.

Speaker A:

100%.

Speaker C:

Texas.

Speaker A:

What?

Speaker C:

A snow or something in Texas? Texas has got millions inches of snow and millions of people without power. And all kinds of poor people have lost their lives on the interstate because of the they can't drive on icy roads.

Speaker A:

They haven't figured it out.

Speaker C:

No. Not that we're any better, but we have a little more practice.

Speaker B:

Yeah, you'd think?

Speaker D:

And all the natural gas pipelines are frozen solid.

Speaker C:

Yes, I saw that also. Really?

Speaker D:

Because they don't put them underground there.

Speaker C:

No. And their second storm is coming through on Wednesday. If you're in Texas, good luck.

Speaker A:

Have fun.

Speaker C:

Have fun.

Speaker A:

We're just sitting up here. 42 below. You guys can without a wind chill. Yeah, without window with it. So just for listeners, wind chill is measured by the temperature with the miles per hour average of the wind and then gives you the fu temperature. The fu temperature was somewhere around death. I don't remember what it quite was this morning.

Speaker C:

It was a little bit lower than death.

Speaker A:

Was it? We don't measure temperature in Minnesota by degrees. We measured how fast your skin will die when it's exposed to the air.

Speaker C:

I actually just pretty fast. I recorded by F Bombs. The more F bombs I hear during the day from everybody at work or everybody you meet on the street or whatever.

Speaker A:

I thought F Five was only for tornadoes.

Speaker C:

No, F five is also for how cold it is.

Speaker D:

Good to know it's cold outside.

Speaker A:

See, like that.

Speaker C:

Like that, yeah.

Speaker A:

Except thank you for the beliefs. So we have questions normally by listeners, but this one is more of like a statement. Rex wants to let you know that is it just me, but if you listen to Adam, does he sound a bit like Andy Dick?

Speaker B:

Really?

Speaker A:

No, I actually had to listen to it.

Speaker C:

I don't like Andy Dick a little bit. Does he really?

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

I feel like his voice is lower, though.

Speaker A:

Yeah, right now. But when he gets excited, he sounds.

Speaker B:

Just like I don't know what Andy Dick sounds like when he's just a normal person in his movies. He has his character, but does he like that? Does he actually talk like that?

Speaker A:

I mean, they have a bunch of his videotape and other stuff after the fact are candid.

Speaker C:

Tmz has done all kinds of stuff.

Speaker A:

He's way worse, apparently. Wow.

Speaker B:

Like, he was in Star Trek.

Speaker A:

Way worse.

Speaker B:

That was weird, watching Star Trek. And there's Andy Dick. What's he doing here?

Speaker C:

Was he an alien?

Speaker A:

The first inclusion of gay people I wish in Star Trek. Next actual question. evan Porter says hi. Aquarium guys. Please. bleep. That last name, actually. So Aaron just says hi. Aquarium. Guys. I've been a dabbler in the hobby for a number of years, but stick to small freshwater tanks. Your podcast has not only been entertaining and informative, but truly an escape from all the negative news and content, it seems, escapable. Thank you for the refuge of the podcast. I want to set up a five gallon desk up aquarium at my office. It'll be hardscaped planted with aqua soil. I'd like to set this up at my home first to fully cycle with plants to get started before transporting it to work. I have about an hour commute to work, and I'm concerned that transporting a damp tank may be detrimental to the bacteria biological filter. Your thoughts and suggestions are appreciated. So Aaron was kind enough to put her number in the email, so, of course, I hate typing. So I just gave her a call, got a hold of her sweet lady.

Speaker C:

And she said, Stranger danger.

Speaker A:

Stranger danger?

Speaker D:

I hope so.

Speaker A:

More like. Oh, I was hoping to get Adam. Damn it.

Speaker C:

Yeah, we all are. Kind of hoping to get some man candy, right?

Speaker A:

So she totally explained more details, and she was concerned that if she drains the tank 100%, she'll lose the biological bacteria built up. She has a sponge filter, so I said, just leave 25% water in the bottom if you can get by with it, driving in the interstate. If not, just put your sponge filter into a sealed container with water to maintain the cycle.

Speaker C:

Yeah, a pale or a plastic bag with a rubber band on it.

Speaker A:

Absolutely. Otherwise, it's rather fun trying to juggle a full container of aquarium water in your we've all done it.

Speaker C:

It's not any fun.

Speaker A:

Not fun.

Speaker B:

It's doable.

Speaker C:

Very doable.

Speaker A:

Should we do the negative one? Yeah, it's so much fun.

Speaker C:

People hate us.

Speaker A:

It's coming with an education thing. We got to go over hate mail, too.

Speaker B:

That's awesome.

Speaker A:

We can't just leave all the hatred. No, you're good.

Speaker C:

If you have the time to send us hate mail, we'll read it honestly.

Speaker A:

That means they care enough to hate us. That's an honor, in my opinion. I have been listening.

Speaker C:

What's his name? First name, last name, social Security?

Speaker A:

Matt. That's all gas.

Speaker C:

Okay.

Speaker A:

I have been listening through the podcast and bouncing around for specific information. So step one, he was bouncing. You got to go through this story. Start from one, work your way up. And if you don't want to start from one, start from episode 18.

Speaker C:

Baby steps, right?

Speaker A:

So mistake there. Next is I listened to the most recent episode. Now, during this airing, the most recent episode when he messaged this was when Joe came on and did a deeper dive into shrimp.

Speaker C:

We drank a lot of beer that night.

Speaker A:

Yeah, there was a whole lot of shit going on. So mistake on us. Right? We'll take that point. He said, how useless. You guys aren't funny, especially when you try so hard. I want fish information, not half ass. howard's turned bs.

Speaker C:

Look up a week of wikipedia.

Speaker A:

There's only so many of us podcasters out that talk about fish. And out of us, everybody is so horrible dry. We try to bring some entertainment along with really valuable podcast guests. We bring phds on specifics and field business entrepreneurs. We're bringing big names of this shit here, but we got to have some fun. In between, we have our story times. We're doing a concert today with Smoke and Joe. Oh, hey. I mean, we got to have some fun.

Speaker C:

He'll really hate this next one.

Speaker A:

No, that there's fun episodes and there's informational.

Speaker C:

That's right. This is like dating people.

Speaker A:

This is like our mode to you.

Speaker C:

The first couple of dates were serious, and then after that, we don't care anymore.

Speaker A:

Right? So to finish the message, there was so little info about shrimp, I was disjointed that I got little info. Your early ones, even with the kilo Fish episode, which is more recent, are so much more useful. Regards, Matt. So for those that didn't listen and he didn't know this, we had a freshwater shrimp episode where we did an enormous dry deep dive. Very dry. There isn't a lot of information about shrimp. Shrimp is very new in the hobby compared to other species and is very coveted.

Speaker C:

People don't want to release any information.

Speaker A:

So go to episode 14 for shrimp. And then the most recent one with Joe is answering specific questions that we didn't cover the first time around, ones that we've submitted multiple times to us and we wanted to address with a professional in the room that happened to have a lot more fun than us.

Speaker C:

And what's interesting about Joe and I get our shrimp from the same place. And one thing that he educated on me, I don't know if it was on the air or not, but when they're sending the shrimp, they're sending mostly males.

Speaker D:

Was that yeah. antennas.

Speaker A:

Yeah, pretty sure that was on air.

Speaker C:

So they send out 90% males. And overseas in Taiwan, where they're sending this stuff from, they are so good by just looking at these shrimp that they can actually just sex them as they're scooping up in your bag. So they keep all the females for themselves, of course, because they want to.

Speaker A:

Keep producing or they'll send he said.

Speaker D:

That they'd also send all males of one type and then all females of another type, but then usually they'd be pregnant, but not too pregnant. And it was really interesting. I didn't know you could sex them by their antenna.

Speaker C:

Yeah. So, Matt. There you go. You just learned something. You can sex shrimp by its antenna.

Speaker A:

Looking good there.

Speaker C:

Oh, yeah. That made him angry.

Speaker A:

That's a hot shrimp. So, Matt, sorry that you feel this way.

Speaker C:

We still love you, though. Matt.

Speaker A:

Yeah. You sent this. You cared. We sent you back. A response. No. Hate to Matt, we need some mats to make their podcast better. And if you're looking for more of those topics, we're going to be doing some again. We record these ahead of time. So we don't know what order you're going to get these in, but we're planning on doing a clownfish deep dive for the king of the guy that started Designer clowns. We're going to be doing live food cultures, which apparently great demand. Facebook did their own poll in our group, and it's the number one most requested podcast on the Facebook page, so got to get that through. And then, of course, we've now had a bunch of people give us recommendations for trophies, cyclic guests. So, more to come, as always. But we're going to have fun ones in between, so kiss my ass.

Speaker C:

Wow. You're kind of angry. No.

Speaker A:

I say that to all my buddies. Right, Jimmy?

Speaker C:

No, don't talk to me.

Speaker A:

All right, next question. Last one, I promise.

Speaker B:

So, I'm learning a lot.

Speaker C:

Jim'S the brains of the whole thing. grubs a dick.

Speaker A:

And Adam is a good looking. Adam is a sexy candy.

Speaker B:

Well, you need but you can't even see. It's good to have brains and looks and a dick.

Speaker A:

Oh, thank goodness. Andre a giant. No, just Andre said hi, guys. Love the show. I want to know if you guys had any advice on adding shrimp to my tank. I currently have 30 gallon tank. I have eleven neon tetras, three glow tetras, and one small plato. Would it be possible to add shrimp to this tank? If so, what would be your recommendation? How many? By the way, I have blue gravel bottom, and I would like some cherry shrimp if you guys have a chance to write back. That'd be sweet.

Speaker C:

That pop.

Speaker B:

I was thinking the same thing.

Speaker C:

That pop.

Speaker B:

Nice aesthetically.

Speaker A:

Okay, so number one, you have blue gravel.

Speaker C:

Okay. You need to have a little no Breaking Bad figure. Nobody wants clown puke. No. Nobody wants baking bread. Figures.

Speaker A:

No, just the Breaking Bad figurines to match your meth soil. I think that'd be kind of cute. No.

Speaker C:

Poor guy. It's a great escape.

Speaker A:

As you said, cherry shrimp would pop nicely against the blue. Make sure that you're using neocardenia because cardinia won't work without a lot of tender loving care and probably a softer substrate.

Speaker D:

And put a bunch of shrimp in there because they'll get picked off.

Speaker C:

Lots of hiding spots. Maybe some java moss out of the.

Speaker A:

Things that will hit them. Neon probably leave them alone. Glow light tetras. I don't know if they're glow light tetras. Glow tetras. I don't know what type of tetras those are, but anything bigger than a neon tetra has risk of a couple getting hit. So get yourself a few, especially babies. Remember that adding a ton of shrimp does not add a ton of biological bacteria to a tank. So you have essentially 15 fish in a 30 gallon tank, and they're all schooling. Don't be afraid to get a gaggle of shrimp in there.

Speaker C:

I would start out with this. Seriously. This is me.

Speaker A:

This is you.

Speaker C:

I'd throw 50 in. Yeah, this is the guy. I've got 150 in a 20 gallon tank. And Joe goes, oh, that's not even crowded.

Speaker A:

Yeah, joe goes like that. Two and a half gallons, we could do 350 easy.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

So don't be afraid to just dump some cherry shrimp in there if you lose a couple.

Speaker D:

No, remember, Joe said don't dump them.

Speaker A:

Oh, yes. Excuse me. delicately go through the process alkalmate quarantine. And then get it in there.

Speaker C:

No dump and go.

Speaker A:

No dumping.

Speaker B:

Go.

Speaker A:

Remember, make sure that tax established.

Speaker B:

Is that where you put them in the bag and then put the bag in the water? Like when you see man doesn't have.

Speaker A:

Fish and he gets it.

Speaker C:

He gets it.

Speaker B:

High five, bro.

Speaker A:

Hey. Yes. Do that. And don't be afraid. And use promo code aquarium guys to check out for Joe streamshack.com.

Speaker C:

Ask for six inch Hollywood.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

Lots of it.

Speaker A:

Cholo wood is great with blue gravel.

Speaker C:

Special thanks to our listener maverick, who has got us buried up to our waist. And trollawood.

Speaker A:

Okay, we already have two cases of it, right? And now we're having another 150 pieces coming our way. I feel jimmy, hold on. Listen to me. Here. For the fans, we need to put you when it's warmer out and just bury you in Cholawood naked. But then put only batches of Cholawood, all the troll of wood that we had for maverick covering up the most unique areas.

Speaker C:

It'D only take one little piece. I think we should just start them on fire and try to stay warm for the next week. It's a day. I'm cold.

Speaker A:

Here a chola bonfire.

Speaker C:

Or we should maybe make a log cabin on a Cholawood. I think that would be cool.

Speaker A:

Six inch pieces are kind of like big, giant retarded lincoln logs, right? Yeah.

Speaker B:

Oh, Lincoln logs. Yeah.

Speaker A:

You remember those?

Speaker B:

I do.

Speaker C:

What did I make you last week out of the chola wood? I made you a very nice gift.

Speaker A:

Yeah. You put plants in it.

Speaker C:

I put Oubas plants in them. And brought Run over to Robbie and gave it to him and put it in his tank for him.

Speaker A:

And as a very famous actor once said, you could put your wheat in there.

Speaker C:

No. Speaking of plants oh, don't start with me, Adam.

Speaker D:

Jim learned something.

Speaker A:

What did Jimmy learn?

Speaker C:

Jim had an expensive lesson. How many times have I said in this program that you learned from other people's mistakes?

Speaker D:

I learned from yours.

Speaker A:

Jim, what did you do?

Speaker C:

So I've been cranking out guppies like an animal. We've been producing 150 guppies a day, seven days a week. And Adam figured this out for me because I still had to figure it out when I talked to Adam about it. So we have 110 gallon fish pond, and inside that fish pond we have two extra large pop up hampers. And I keep 50 female guppies in each one. So I have two of them. So I have 100 female guppies in there. Like I said, we're collecting anywhere between 150 babies a day. Not a week, but a day. So these things are cranking. It's doing great. And last Monday when I was late, I was at malta Airlines Airlines and I bought a whole bunch of plants. And right now, after we had that plant episode a while back, I thought, I'm going to start selling more plants. And so I've been importing Amazon sword plants, buying them for fifty five cents a piece. They come in, they're six to eight inches high, they're rooted. I put them in the little poly baskets that you see at the pet store, wrap them in some cotton fiber type material and I sell them for $6 a piece. And I am selling tons of them. And these things grow so fast and do so well. So anyway, I brought some in last week. I was in a hurry when I came over here because I was running late. So I just took the plants and I threw them in my fish pond. And the next day all my fish started dying. Wait, and they are still dying. Tonight I've lost over 80 female guppies in a week's time. I'm losing five to ten a day.

Speaker A:

For the children that are going and not understanding how this works, why are they dying?

Speaker C:

Adam figured it out.

Speaker D:

I figured that they sprayed the plants with either an antibacterial agent or something to ship them over in order to get them through the customs COVID and everything else. Customs.

Speaker A:

That took you guys a while to figure out. That's a big thing. They sprayed all that shit.

Speaker C:

But they don't. From Florida.

Speaker A:

No, because they don't have to.

Speaker C:

Right. And so bringing in from Florida for years and years and years and years, throw them in the tank, they're fine. They don't have anything in the box saying that to rinse them off or anything like that never hurt because they'll.

Speaker A:

Get more money from you the next order.

Speaker C:

Yeah, I have to order female guppies now from them. No, I'm not going to. So anyway, very expensive mistake. I'm going to have to start over. I've got another 300 females coming from the same gentleman and just very frustrating. And so when somebody bleached that whole tub, Jim, I am going to drink a gallon of bleach urinate and urinate it. Yes, absolutely. I'm going to bomb the damn thing. But yet I'm still getting 40 or 50 babies a day out of them. The babies don't seem to be affected. And what was interesting is when I threw those plants in the basket that was closest to the plants were the first ones to go, and it took about four or five days for the other ones, which were probably about 2ft away before they started become affected.

Speaker A:

Well, I'm glad to hear that fetal alcohol syndrome isn't a part of guppy's life.

Speaker C:

What?

Speaker A:

Because you said babies are good.

Speaker B:

They have built in immunity.

Speaker C:

We don't know that. We haven't seen them to adulthood yet. They could be window liquors for all we know.

Speaker A:

The tongue will stick out and get more money for them.

Speaker C:

Exactly.

Speaker A:

They'll be cuter somehow.

Speaker C:

All right.

Speaker D:

I have one thing, too.

Speaker C:

Yes, do it.

Speaker D:

Just so everybody knows, in New York, the state, they are talking about basically banning the shipping of all live animals. So fish, birds, reptiles, cats, dogs, dogs, cats, everything.

Speaker C:

Us.

Speaker D:

Arc is how I know about it. It's a reptile organization. Go there and sign the petition because there's all these rules and regulations and they just basically want to ban everything, shipping of interstate. And if New York passes it, there's a chance that they could spread it around. So people that ship fish through the Us postal Service or fedex, Ups, everything, even it would even knock out airline regulations, too. So you could not fly fish into New York, the state, from like, cigarettes.

Speaker C:

Farms or anything that would be devastating to the whole fish community.

Speaker A:

Imagine the amount of money the amount.

Speaker B:

Of money you make smuggling black market fish, right?

Speaker A:

No, this would be just normal market, normal market fish. bro, you want some neon textures, bro? I got some.

Speaker B:

Come back here. Come in the basement.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

I can't wait to get that phone call.

Speaker B:

They never saw him again.

Speaker C:

Robbie sobbing in prison, I'm selling some neons and I'm somebody's bitch.

Speaker A:

They don't got soap and fish. Prison got greedy, dude.

Speaker F:

Just be careful you don't get catfished.

Speaker C:

There we go. Scrap. Out of the blue.

Speaker A:

Kiss my whiskers. We have a question, actually. Scrap, go ahead and just like, you know, hit a slide with that. All right.

Speaker F:

So speaking of guppies, I've been raising some guppies and I had a spawn of about 30 plus out of one of my nicer females. But here's the kicker, is that about under half of them were non viable fry, meaning they were either just little balls or they were heads. Or they had tails or then the ones that I've gotten most of them to survive were at least had an egg sack on them and then up I don't know. Have you ever seen this, Jimmy?

Speaker A:

Those are whiskey babies.

Speaker C:

Yeah, she probably got stressed out and gave birth and basically aborted them. Unfortunately, I've had them too. Where I brought some home from a pet store when I was younger and I put them in one of those baby catchers and she was so stressed out. Yeah, those little plastic things. And she was so stretched out that she threw all the babies and half of them looked like little eggs yolks and kind of the same thing. So I'd keep her and let her try again.

Speaker F:

Okay. Because those were fairly new tanks that I'd set up, but I was fairly certain that they were already cycled. But there was a whole new rack and everything and maybe just transferring over and she didn't like it. My females don't like they freak out when they're in those. I get the big planter baskets from Home depot. They're like a buck 50. They fit perfect in the top of like a 15 tall or a ten gallon tank. But when I'm above them, it's like they freak out and they run around like they can't go anywhere. But if they're in the little clear baskets, for some reason they're fine. I don't know what the deal is with that.

Speaker C:

I think they just probably see you as a predator, like as a bird from above coming down on them and stuff. Because when they can see you walking, they know it's you. But from above they're probably seeing shadows and whatnot. They can throw in some moss or some duckweed or something for them to hide or for them to see cover underneath and you probably have real good success.

Speaker A:

That if anyone's listening. If you have stillborn issues, because I've had a bunch of it myself. Libraries have a unique way of controlling when they need to get rid of or any type of scenario that they believe needs to held on. Like I've had a pregnant fish for months and won't drop them. Then I've also had ones that stress out, drop just like you're having issues. darken the tank. Don't be afraid to shut the light off. Make more space coverage of plants like you said, the duckweed and whatnot. darken that tank up and you'll have great results.

Speaker C:

And you'll get the occasional female that will pass away giving birth too. And that's just part of it. Unfortunately. When I've had 150 females going, I'd lose one, maybe two females a week. And unfortunately it's just part of the business, I think, how she goes.

Speaker A:

Well, Adam, you got anything else? nope. That's good. So we didn't extended news and extras this episode, but Joe, I can't thank you enough, man, for coming.

Speaker B:

It's fun.

Speaker A:

So Joe, normally we ask traditional questions like what got you into the hobby, but I think we just need to know more about you.

Speaker B:

Sure.

Speaker A:

So what is your background?

Speaker B:

Oh, man. Well, how do I make this nice and short?

Speaker C:

Skip the felonies, just stick to the mysteries.

Speaker B:

I have a near felony, but I was 17 and doesn't count.

Speaker A:

And it was with prime.

Speaker C:

That's right.

Speaker B:

And let's see, I grew up in Iowa, we grew up in southeastern Iowa, and then I moved out to Minneapolis in my early twenty s a little bit more than ten years ago to play music. I've been playing music since I was nine. I started playing drums and cello, and I quit playing cello, but I keep playing drums. I picked up guitar and bass and then I sing and write songs mostly.

Speaker A:

Is that where the hair came from with the whole Kenny G thing?

Speaker B:

Honestly, I've had long hair since third grade and I didn't play anything yet, and I didn't know why I liked it, but I've always just loved the framing of I just like it.

Speaker A:

And then suddenly it was no.

Speaker B:

Exactly. I don't play any horns, unfortunately, but my computer does.

Speaker A:

Hey, Jimmy plays a diggery, dude. Kind of.

Speaker B:

I love the digger.

Speaker C:

I have people that request that I don't play digger redu antirequest.

Speaker A:

To be fair, it's also 50 50. You also have people that request you do?

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

There's a very mixed camp.

Speaker C:

We have a lot of drug addicts that listen and they were like drug addicts and fish.

Speaker B:

I mean, I know music and drug addicts, that's common, but fish?

Speaker C:

Oh, no.

Speaker A:

100%. Yeah. And we got we got people that have like, successful fish businesses that are heartstoners, not saying names. You know who you are.

Speaker C:

It's not me.

Speaker A:

You know who you are, Adam.

Speaker B:

That's interesting. So I pretty much built my whole life around live music. I toured nationally with my band Dead Larry in the then I started putting a music festival, an outer space themed music festival, and basically bringing a bunch of intoxicated people together in a small area and driving around and doing that. That was my living for a really long time.

Speaker A:

God bless America.

Speaker B:

So when COVID hit, obviously those are the things you can't do. You can't gather and nor shouldn't. Traveling is extremely difficult. So I had to figure out a way to somehow take my skill set and monetize it in a way and sell things that people wanted. Like, what do people want? People don't pay for music. Music is essentially free on the Internet. So I started writing songs for people's pets. It was like a joke. Fun thing with a friend and who had the idea? My friend jess. My friend jess, she's my partner in my festival and she she heard the first song I ever wrote when I was nine, or maybe I was eleven. I was eleven and was about my cat tucker, and I played it on.

Speaker C:

One of my oh, tucker. tucker. I bet you that had a lot of things that rhymed with tucker.

Speaker B:

I didn't swear in it, and I normally don't swear, but tucker was my cat and I wrote a song about him, and I played it at some random show that just played it for fun. And she heard that, and she's like, Will you write a song about my cats? And I said, sure. Wrote a song about her cats? And she's like, this is amazing. You should see if anybody else wants one. So I offered my Facebook. I just made a post. I didn't make a commercial. I just made a post. And then a dozen orders for people's pet songs, and I let people pick what genre they want it to be.

Speaker A:

Yeah, mine came up as a Facebook ad for some reason.

Speaker B:

Yeah, later on I made an ad and I put it out there, but the first couple of months was just like, anybody want to talk about your Pet?

Speaker C:

Was there any drinking involved in this?

Speaker B:

No, actually, I quit drinking three and a half years ago. This is just you California sober.

Speaker A:

This is just twilight sober. This is like a twilight Zone episode. Like, no, it's really working.

Speaker B:

It's weird. Yeah, it's weird. And I didn't really realize how easy.

Speaker C:

It would be for me to do.

Speaker B:

I can sit down in a few hours, really just kind of pump out a song about people's pets, and everyone loves them, and I have no complaints so far.

Speaker C:

Do you record them and then send them or hire?

Speaker B:

I do, yeah. I pretty much record them as I write. So I'll sit down and I'll be like, cool. They want a reggae song.

Speaker A:

Cool.

Speaker B:

I'll just start playing some reggae, like, that's good for now. And then I write a bass part and put in the drums and put all the stuff, and I just layer it all and then it's done. And I call it the pet song method. And since I started doing that, I applied that to my other songs, like how to write them. So I've probably written including Pet songs, I've probably written about 50 songs in the past eleven months.

Speaker C:

That's pretty prolific.

Speaker B:

Just crazy.

Speaker A:

Dylan'S jealous right now.

Speaker B:

Yeah. They're not all zingers, but I mean, they you know, it's like, I'm going to be sitting there in my apartment anyway, so I might as well somehow get money from people.

Speaker C:

That's right. Legal money.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

You know.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

It's like, I can I can you know, and it's wholesome. And that was what you were saying to me when we first got fantastic. This is so wholesome. And then it's funny, I wrote a song for the show today, and it is the least wholesome pet song.

Speaker A:

Wonderful. It's like he knows this is like.

Speaker C:

The rated R version.

Speaker B:

Yeah, like he knows. I feel like you don't have to it's on the verge, but it's good. I don't want to play it yet. I want to build it up.

Speaker A:

Right? We're going to build up.

Speaker B:

It's not a very long song.

Speaker C:

Yeah. A little foreplay.

Speaker B:

Yeah, exactly. Get people going, everybody.

Speaker C:

Rose. Yeah.

Speaker A:

So again, going back to me sitting on the shader, discovering this, it was just like the whole, like, two minute ad, like, hey, do you love your pet? Would you like to touch your pet?

Speaker B:

I wanted to sillily make people be like, do you love your pet? Well, do you love your pet enough to buy it a song? Of course I do.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

But the music to the commercial is just different pet songs throughout them.

Speaker A:

So I immediately started messaging. You were in Minnesota. I'm like, this has got to happen. We got to get you to do a pet song. And we're recording this ahead of time. But we also should be hearing our new aquarium Guys theme song at the beginning with, I believe, some scrap help. Is that correct? Scrap?

Speaker F:

Yeah. I'm going to throw some tracks down and send them at our new friend here, and then he's going to incorporate the things that are tasty, evolving theme songs.

Speaker A:

Hell, yeah. So I'm pickle pink.

Speaker C:

If you could throw gilligan's Island in there, I'd be happy.

Speaker A:

Listeners listening to this now are going to be like, wow, that's a great song. We haven't heard it fully yet. So I immediately said, hey, man, can we get the interview? And you're good for it. So you came up for the night and cold ass drive your trooper. Thank you.

Speaker B:

I just stay in the apartment for months until it gets below 30. Negative 30 and then I leave. Right, exactly.

Speaker C:

That's poor planning on your part.

Speaker A:

So we did some trading new intro song advertisements on the podcast. So if you guys are checking this out, what is the website?

Speaker B:

Smokingjoinline.com. So no. G is important. Smoke in. Smoke in. Joe can do apostrophe for the ulr. Not in the WWE, the net.

Speaker A:

I don't like that character.

Speaker C:

Really?

Speaker A:

No.

Speaker B:

But Smoke and Joe online. I try to make it as easy as possible to navigate to the pet song order. I also make custom, like, real songs. I wrote a song for someone's father that was like, the most country song I think I've written, and I really enjoyed making that song. Wrote a song for a new love that made it like a festival. So it's all like, hippie acoustic guitars and hand drums. And then I wrote a song for good friends of mine that got married, and I was like, funky cynthia. So whatever you want a song. If you want a song about literally anything, unless it's extremely negative, it's to build people up. But humor is good.

Speaker C:

So maybe not about your first love that you found in prison.

Speaker B:

Yeah, I mean, skip that one. I don't know.

Speaker A:

He would write a song. He called. Hold my pocket.

Speaker C:

Hold in my pocket.

Speaker A:

Hold my pocket.

Speaker F:

I think there's an eminem song about gerbils in prison.

Speaker A:

I don't know.

Speaker F:

It could be wrong.

Speaker C:

So we're going to change it to hamsters lemme winks hamsters.

Speaker B:

Yeah, he is.

Speaker C:

Because we don't want him coming after us.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker C:

He's too good of we don't want Disney after us. We don't want there's a lot of people we don't want after us.

Speaker B:

Disney'S listening always.

Speaker C:

Disney'S listening always.

Speaker A:

Right. Slight tangent. Jimmy, I've been asked to ask you on air, can we please do a Getting Fish from smelter Airlines episodes where we mic you up, you go in and literally we record the entire podcast for the entire duration. You're waiting?

Speaker C:

You might want to start a gofundme right now.

Speaker A:

Just for your supplies so you can make it through the night.

Speaker C:

Yeah. You know what's really sad is that since COVID happened, I was not able to use Schmelta Airlines for almost a full year. And now I'm going back, they have all new people, and they've got an attitude. They seem to care at this point.

Speaker A:

No.

Speaker C:

And I've been in and out of the airport literally in three or four minutes, five minutes tops. And this last time, the only reason I couldn't get out there is they were trying to train somebody in. That's what took so damn long.

Speaker A:

Why?

Speaker C:

They've been good, but give them six months, they'll drive it into the ditch.

Speaker A:

All right. When it gets bad again, that's when.

Speaker C:

We'Ll have to I'll let you know. You'll get a phone call, and we'll.

Speaker A:

Have the sensor button ready.

Speaker C:

This is at the fargo Police Department. rubs.

Speaker A:

So, Joe, just so you're aware, this man is on the Secret Service list because once Clinton came to town, he had a bad day and couldn't get fish and blew through their blockade.

Speaker B:

Oh, wow.

Speaker C:

It wasn't really a blockade. And that's what I told him. They were not impressed with that.

Speaker A:

You were not impressed with their blockade?

Speaker C:

No.

Speaker A:

If a minivan can just drive right.

Speaker C:

Through, I told him. I said he looked like a couple of farmers talking about crops. I just drove around them.

Speaker A:

They just happened to be in black suits.

Speaker C:

They were not happy with glasses, sunglasses. I was going through my divorce. I was not in a good mood anyway.

Speaker B:

A bad mood will do a lot of things.

Speaker C:

It made all five foot eight of me think I was invincible. I muted off to the Secret Service, but then, luckily, Secret Service got busted that next day, and he got fired.

Speaker F:

It's all right. I think they were just onto something, fishy going on.

Speaker C:

That's all that could be. They knew I was smuggling guppies at my buttocks.

Speaker A:

Well, I mean, we're going to have to do something for New York. Coming up. Yeah. Now back to the music. Right. What has been your most challenging song or most noteworthy that you've done so far?

Speaker B:

Oh, man, I have a couple people give me information about the pet that I'm singing about. A lot of times, it's not their pet. They're buying it as a gift, and I will take as much or as little as they want to give me. I prefer more information to less. But I once made a song for a friend that was a gift for someone else, where all I knew was the dog's name and that it liked to fetch. They wanted it, like, bluesy, and I.

Speaker A:

Was like, okay, seems very vanilla.

Speaker B:

So that was the most challenging, and that song turned out great. I couldn't believe just how my brain was like, so how many ways can I say this dog likes to fetch? Like, how many different words are there to make two minutes of content?

Speaker A:

Tada.

Speaker B:

Let's see. I made one with two dogs, a cat and a lizard, and there was so much information that I just had to make it a rap or I wouldn't be able to get it through. I was like, I don't usually rap, but hook it up. I got to say, all this stuff.

Speaker A:

It just went out. Yeah.

Speaker B:

And it just happened. And I started making electronic pet songs, and people wanted them, which kind of got me into making my own electronic music just when I don't have any words to say, because it's great just making music for music's sake. And the majority of the music you hear on commercials or anywhere is all electronically made. So it's like, you got to get good at that if you want to get in the industry.

Speaker A:

Now, what is your favorite genres to pick on if someone sends you a request? Because I know that, again, your background is a lot of, like, really good funk.

Speaker B:

Yeah, funk and rock music. I like funk a lot, and I love rock a lot. I'm really into 90s brit pop, so, like, your Radio Head, your blur gorillas, stuff like that. And I love doing that. Anything indie, progressive rock, funk, that sort of thing. But I toured as a tour manager with a bluegrass band for two years, so I have listened to a ton of bluegrass tour with the Sky Band for a while and wait, wait, what Scott Band? Space monkey mafia.

Speaker A:

Ah. On your shirt there. Yeah.

Speaker B:

Just have me wearing the hoodie today.

Speaker A:

I just need to come up with better band names like that's.

Speaker B:

I was like, we could do a band.

Speaker A:

Jimmy when I first heard Space Monkey.

Speaker B:

Mafia, I was like, that's a stupid name. Like, oh, it's a scaw band. I'm like, that's a great name. That's a great name, because it all depends. So I love all music. I can find an artist in any genre that I enjoy. I think it's sometimes a bit much when people just write off entire genres.

Speaker A:

I'm going to be looking up the Space Monkey mafia because, fun fact, my wife and I, our first honeymoon. Right? Went to a sky concert for five iron frenzy.

Speaker B:

Five iron frenzy.

Speaker A:

That was a whole lot of fun.

Speaker B:

Nice. I saw real big fish on their 20th anniversary tour of Kill Your Television. Kill Your TV is that they have so much fun.

Speaker A:

Marketing department.

Speaker B:

Yeah, they were tour of the Antiflag, and I was like, yeah, let's go see these bands. Just look around like we are old now. nobody's running into each other. The mosh pit is very friendly. It's like my sciatica.

Speaker F:

It's not 2008 anymore when you can go watch Real Big Fish with a 16 inch mohawk and get totally screwed over in the mosh pit. It just doesn't happen.

Speaker B:

Was that you?

Speaker E:

Yeah.

Speaker F:

I didn't have a mohawk after that day. It was kind of like a mode hawk mode.

Speaker C:

You never know where this is going to take you. I mean, look at Adam. Not Adam ella Sharp, but Adam from All City, and he's from Minnesota. jade carly rae jepsen had several big hits and now he's writing music for Disney.

Speaker B:

I would love to write theme songs and pet songs and just like silly little things. As long as people know what they want, like, I just like to do it. It's really fun.

Speaker C:

So what is what what is the the most popular animal that people want their song about?

Speaker B:

It's all cats and dogs. It's like 95% cats and dogs. I have one in the that I haven't done yet. I got the order for a turtle. I finally have a turtle, which has been yeah, so that's I'm excited to have some new words to use. No more fuzzy, no more pooch and puppy and kitters and all that stuff. And it's wonderful. But a turtle. Hedgehog. I met a Hedgehog song and that was really fun. That hedgehog has a personality, I guess.

Speaker A:

Wait, was it not sonic?

Speaker B:

It was not sonic. The hedgehog's name was tilly. But I do say I do have a sonic reference in the I mean, how do I write it off?

Speaker A:

You can't help it.

Speaker C:

Shout out to tilly. Shout out to tilly.

Speaker B:

Yeah. Silly, silly miss tilly the hedgehog. And I learned a lot about people's pets, and I have met some of these pets after writing the song. So I've gone over to people's houses that ordered the song, and they're like, oh, hey, this is the pet that I know extremely well.

Speaker C:

Did you get your picture taken with the pets?

Speaker B:

I did not.

Speaker C:

You should.

Speaker B:

Terrible.

Speaker C:

That would be good on your Facebook.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Here they are.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And it's I don't know. I don't know what to do, actually. I know that I have an album of original songs coming out first this year, and then in the summertime, I was going to compile 2020 all the pet songs I can fit onto an album and release and maybe release a pet song album, like every year and just put it out.

Speaker C:

Send it to Ellen.

Speaker A:

Right?

Speaker C:

Seriously.

Speaker A:

I mean, she's got such great PR right now.

Speaker C:

Hey, nobody else will go on her damn show. They're having heck of a time getting people to come on her show.

Speaker A:

I can't believe she still has a show.

Speaker C:

She'll briefly she's gotten so much negative PR, and her viewership is way down. Yeah, she do pissed off a lot of people.

Speaker B:

She's just really mean, I guess. I don't really know the details.

Speaker C:

She treats her staff like crap, and a lot of her guests that weren't big name guests and stuff, and she always practices, always be nice to each other, and she's just the exact opposite, I guess.

Speaker B:

I think that's the problem. I don't think it's like, oh, another celebrity in Hollywood being a jerk to their staff. But I think it's the fact that the way she appears is she's like.

Speaker A:

The alter ego of it.

Speaker C:

It's like kids don't do drugs and then you go to drugs, which hey.

Speaker A:

And I'm not in her field either, but she literally made people dance. You couldn't go on the Ellen show unless you danced. There's a requirement. Like that person being an asshole. Totally ironic.

Speaker C:

See, I really enjoyed her show until she started getting a little political and whatnot and stuff. And that's why I watch stuff like that because I get so tired of the news and everything else. I just want to be entertained for a little while.

Speaker A:

Which is why we have fun episodes, Jimmy.

Speaker C:

That's right.

Speaker A:

We don't want all information. We have those episodes.

Speaker B:

I've learned a lot just sitting here. I mean, I don't know if I'll retain it, but I didn't realize that there was a new booming shrimp part of it's, a new thing.

Speaker A:

So just for your information and repeating for listeners, the shrimp hobby essentially started in the mid 90s. Right? That's how it, like, burst. It didn't even hit the United States until late. Two thousand s and two thousand and ten s. So extremely new hobby for people. And they're all these colorful, decorative shrimp. You saw my shrimp all yeah, all kinds of colors.

Speaker B:

I was like, Is that food? No, people like shrimp. And that was the first I was like, I didn't know people kept shrimp.

Speaker A:

Imagine having a guy that his business is called Joe Shrimp shack. I had to tell people that he's not a restaurant every day.

Speaker C:

Every damn day.

Speaker B:

Well, I heard the commercials and they were so funny and weird. I didn't think it was real. I thought it wasn't a real place.

Speaker A:

We made a mythical to me.

Speaker B:

That's right, Joe.

Speaker C:

It's kind of mythical. I mean, it's kind of like a unicorn.

Speaker B:

Is this just stick?

Speaker F:

It's such a challenge, too, because none of the commercials are reused. That was something I learned early on with the podcast, is I just tacked on the last weeks. I didn't know there was going to be a new one. rob's like, no, we can't do that.

Speaker B:

Every new Joe shrimp shack.

Speaker F:

It is awesome. It is so cool and it's so challenging. And then there are nights where it's like two in the morning and I'm sitting there like, there's still no ad. And so then I go on YouTube and get some stock background music and noodle on it and sing a blues song about some crustaceans and then people love it. And I'm like, holy crap, people actually.

Speaker A:

Want that whole song.

Speaker F:

But guess what? I can't actually give you that whole song because it's royalty free track, unless I go make a whole new backing track. If you want that song, then we are going to have to redo the whole thing and write the whole thing out.

Speaker A:

But that's what we have.

Speaker F:

It's fun to do for a snip.

Speaker C:

We don't have any money, so just scrap that. Scrap that.

Speaker B:

Anybody has money, they're holding on to it.

Speaker A:

No, we have a lot of fun even like this, because again, we record these in the past. So we sat down and if you want to know how we make these, we ask the community to do this. So if you haven't joined us, go to Aquariumgyspodcast.com. At the bottom of the website, you'll find a link to discord. That's where we're actually doing this live on twitch as well. But join the debauchery. We have a huge community there and the people, the listeners are responsible for.

Speaker C:

The ads will make you a star.

Speaker A:

So we had this lovely ad and they basically stole it from a doritos commercial. Doritos commercial. They wanted to have hicks eat doritos, essentially was the idea. So they made it like incomprehensible. So, I mean, this is the little beginning.

Speaker C:

My butt just puckered up.

Speaker A:

I know, right? I tell you what, they're going to keep it in ant tank.

Speaker C:

Better say 15 on an ordinance.

Speaker E:

I got crawls gram shoulders.

Speaker C:

Get my sprint around there.

Speaker E:

I got to tell you what, no bucket.

Speaker C:

So come on down to cracker Barrel.

Speaker A:

That was an advertisement for Joe Shrimp shack.

Speaker E:

Wow.

Speaker A:

So we go have a lot of freedom.

Speaker B:

I feel like that's the same as playing with a musical genre, 100%. Absolutely. Like commercial genres.

Speaker A:

You just have more skill.

Speaker C:

I think one of my favorite Joe Shrimp shack commercials was when Adam was looking at shrimp and his wife said, why don't you just look at porn like everybody else? One of my favorites.

Speaker B:

I'm sure somebody's combined shrimp and porn. If you can think of it, it exists.

Speaker A:

If not, you're hearing it first here. And we need it just for Adam. No, don't need Rob wan dark web stuff. Dark web stuff.

Speaker B:

Dark web can't be there.

Speaker A:

I'm not going to lie. I'm trying to be patient here, but you got to share a song with us.

Speaker B:

Okay. Should I do the song?

Speaker C:

Okay.

Speaker A:

So when you say these song, when I talked to you, I said that you should give an example.

Speaker C:

You never finished freebird. You never finished with freebird. Never finished with never finished. You don't start with freebird. You finish with freebird.

Speaker A:

Right. So we talked on the phone. We messaged back and forth, and you wanted some ideas because we want to give an example on what you can do for our listeners as far as making them a fish song.

Speaker B:

Absolutely.

Speaker A:

So I immediately gave you a few different ideas, and I'm trying to remember what I gave you.

Speaker B:

Well, I don't remember all the ideas, but I do know what I decided.

Speaker C:

To do, which was override your ass.

Speaker A:

And just do whatever you want.

Speaker B:

I wrote a song about the flowerhorn.

Speaker C:

Fish.

Speaker B:

And then there's a very special characteristic to this fish.

Speaker C:

Yeah, they're very pretty.

Speaker A:

Jimmy.

Speaker D:

To be the time to put the kids to bed.

Speaker A:

Jimmy, what's the special characteristic about a flowerhorn?

Speaker C:

They're bump on their head. I can't remember what it's called.

Speaker A:

It's called a cock. K-O-K.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker A:

It's the round ball in the front.

Speaker B:

Of a flowerhorn's head and bubble crown, if you will.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker C:

Did you listen to our flowerhorn episode?

Speaker B:

I did not, but I learned a lot. I knew I was going on a podcast that people know about this fish already, so I can't just make it up. Like, it has to be accurate. It'll do all your we were like.

Speaker C:

A bunch of six year old kids saying how many times we could say the word cocktail.

Speaker B:

That was what I do in the song. It was funny because Rob not how many times, but at the same time exciting.

Speaker C:

No, we were up to 250, I think.

Speaker A:

Easy.

Speaker B:

It's definitely not that many times. But I am a pretty wholesome songwriter. I don't swear, really? Anything I do is generally innuendo. If I'm talking about anything sexual or anything devious, it's all just kind of you can't really tell. So this is the first time I was worried, like, my to people and my neighbors are being like, what is he? Because I'm I'm singing. I'm making harmonies. You know what I mean? Like, I'm doing this stuff like it's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. Ridiculous songs. But it's named just kok is the name of the song. So Just Cock is the name of the song.

Speaker C:

I'm so glad it's not named kkk.

Speaker B:

Yeah, that'd be a different song for different probably wouldn't be not this podcast. I feel like that's a line of, like, I will not write you a song about the kkk.

Speaker A:

Doesn't matter what the money is.

Speaker B:

No, it's like, you know, it's like, I'm going to be on the right side of history, I believe, and the cock of the song is written. I think it's almost entirely, if not entirely, from the perspective of the fish.

Speaker A:

Oh, God.

Speaker C:

Oh, man.

Speaker A:

It's like my birthday. Jimmy, just hold on so I can lawyer up.

Speaker C:

Okay?

Speaker B:

Hold on. So I wrote the song. And I wish I had more time to spend on it. I always feel like it's never done but I kept it pretty simple. But this is an example of just simple layering. Just drums, bass, I think two guitar and then a harmony and then I'm going to sing the lead. I recorded the regular lead vocal and I'm going to play guitar along with it too. But I had fun and I was nervous on my own writing this like kind of dirty song about fish. But it's it's not dirty. It's not. Okay, here we go.

Speaker A:

I'm so excited.

Speaker B:

Let me just transfer over here. Words, just in case.

Speaker A:

J, four, annoling flowerhorns if you're listening.

Speaker B:

Flowerhorn, this is a Flower Horn song.

Speaker A:

This song is available for purchase.

Speaker B:

You can hear me.

Speaker A:

You got it.

Speaker B:

I'm going to make sure this is here we go.

Speaker E:

I'm just a flower orange just like this. I was born a beautiful protrusion it is coming out my hair you see this thing is bubble gown makes me kingfish. All the ladies want me and I know that it must be sending all the chickens in the shop, shine a light on a great big cock and make a wish. Get a load of this twelve inch fish. I'm sure you want to know what makes this big cock grow better. Feed me right and right on. Time. Get a big o tank and see how big this cock can be.

Speaker C:

More.

Speaker E:

You play with me, you'll see this cock grow exponentially cog and make a whiz.

Speaker B:

You see, baby, I'm the fishy old dream. If you treat me right I'll give you anything?

Speaker E:

My vibrant color is shining like the.

Speaker B:

Sun you can show me off show me off to everyone I feel like the world the world's got to know and you got to tell them. So stick with me. And there'll be the talk of the.

Speaker E:

Whole block talking about this flower Horn.

Speaker B:

And his great big cock because I.

Speaker E:

Got a big cock.

Speaker A:

Sending all the.

Speaker E:

Sick lids in the shock and shine. A light on my big old cock and make a wish.

Speaker B:

Get a load of this twelve inch.

Speaker A:

Wish.

Speaker E:

Because I got a great big car sending all the little thick lives into Shark.

Speaker B:

I'm going to wrap it up and I'm going to mix it right and I'll send over like a real recorded version.

Speaker C:

That was great, man.

Speaker A:

That was way better than I ever could have dreamed.

Speaker C:

Especially the hot day.

Speaker B:

I learned so much. They're translucent so you shine a light, you can just see through them.

Speaker A:

This is just oh, my God.

Speaker C:

This is like sesame Street. You learned stuff.

Speaker B:

I did. I learned you know what?

Speaker A:

We're labeling this an informational episode. My wife had to come downstairs to see what the was going on. Oh God.

Speaker B:

Why is he keep saying cock over and over?

Speaker A:

But it's true.

Speaker B:

I learned a lot and I mean, as soon as they said it's a twelve inch fish, I was like, oh, man.

Speaker A:

It was so informational, so exact.

Speaker B:

To make a flower horn's cock grow larger, you have to play with it 100%, which, I mean, it was all.

Speaker A:

There, every line, everything. Hot damn good. God damn, you lost it. Jimmy, did you have any clue? Because I didn't give Jimmy hardly any information about what was going on tonight. I'm like, any clue going to be this good?

Speaker C:

Yeah, this is great.

Speaker A:

This is some of the best right here.

Speaker C:

Yeah, Joe.

Speaker A:

Holy shit. You're right. That was the freebird. That was freebird.

Speaker C:

Yeah, he started with freebird. I don't know what you're to follow up with.

Speaker A:

Right?

Speaker B:

That's my fishiest song.

Speaker A:

That's his fishiest song.

Speaker B:

It was written specifically, so if you like that, I can literally heat a song. I wonder. Fish are a different kind of pet. Should I move beck?

Speaker A:

I mean, it's up to you. Otherwise, if you want to showcase some of your normal work, this is your floor, sir.

Speaker C:

Shined if you want to shine shine.

Speaker A:

Like a diamond if that was just like not enough effort, like you just feel like it wasn't done. I want to know what a done song is.

Speaker B:

Done. I think the words are done. It's not like a radio quality. No mix.

Speaker A:

I'd ask that on my local radio station. In fact, I'm going to send it to him after this.

Speaker C:

Yeah, please use money.

Speaker B:

Got the Great Big Cock shine of.

Speaker E:

Light.

Speaker B:

For the flowerhorns is like 55 gallons. And that's huge.

Speaker A:

It is. It's actually 75 for the bigger ones.

Speaker B:

75?

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Because you guys are talking about like 30. What's the biggest one here?

Speaker A:

Oh, that one's 90, right? That's a 90 cube.

Speaker B:

I have no idea what a gallon looks like in a tank.

Speaker A:

Right. It's really hard to go after, like.

Speaker B:

When somebody tells me how many acres something is.

Speaker A:

Well, the one next to the bathroom, that's 60 tall. And that looks like a lot more tank than you think.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

I guess. My wife was driving, but we were once riding a four wheeler and this was before I quit drinking and we smashed into the side of an above ground pool and spilt 40,000 gallons.

Speaker C:

I saw that on America's Funny Videos. Congratulations.

Speaker B:

They didn't film ours.

Speaker A:

I love you, Joe. You are my Gandhi. Wow.

Speaker B:

It was so funny because my wife's phone broke after that, and I was like, hey, it's not every day that you drop a pool on your phone. So I had a lot of fun with The Great Big Cock song, and it was just really funny to see loud.

Speaker A:

Just as much fun, if not more.

Speaker B:

It's very exciting. And honestly, I write different music depending on what people want, so I never would have written these words or with that, too if I hadn't got the prompt.

Speaker C:

So this would not be a church project. Is what you're saying.

Speaker B:

If that's what I can do in a few hours with one fish and information about that, I can't imagine what a whole aquarium's worth of knowledge would do.

Speaker A:

I can't wait for the music video someday.

Speaker B:

Yeah, I mean, we got to find the biggest.

Speaker A:

We'll travel to you for that. We're going to have an actual flowerhorn on jimmy's pant line. That's what we're going to do.

Speaker C:

What would be kind of fun is there's a commercial locally where all these people are doing the same song, so it'd be fun to have all our different listeners do a line of the song. Kind of like look at nickelback and Rock Star video. You've seen that, haven't you? They want to be a rock star and they've got all these people like Gene Simmons and Wayne gretzky doing one lines and a couple of the playmate centerfolds from Hugh heffner. And I think it'd be kind of fun if everybody did like a one line, dressed up goofy and then put them all together, added them all up. I think that'd be cool. But, yeah, if you've ever seen Rock Star by nickelback, take a look at that and maybe that would work.

Speaker A:

We're going to have too much fun with this. But Joe, do you have something else for us? Sure.

Speaker B:

Yeah, I'll play you're going to play.

Speaker A:

One of your normal songs?

Speaker B:

Yeah, I'll play a normal song. Well, it's funny because the songs I play with my band, I don't record this way because I have a band to play them. So this is all my solo stuff. So this is a song I wrote in the fall, so just a few months ago. And it's a happy sounding song about really sad stuff, which is one of my favorite things to do, to write a catchy song pop music does about dead grandmas.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

So let's see here. Cool. It's just simply called the Pop song. Goes like this.

Speaker E:

This time I'm walking out? There's nothing more to say? You've done it all before? And you said you change your way? I know without a doubt. What I want to do is say not throw it all away. You give it everything you got to keep this train from turning around and we are here, like it or not. All the love we found turned a heartache and the mistake that we made but came too much to bear and I'm afraid that the love I'm making? We'll just get taken away hey, we'll just get taken away for I want to come running back so I can't stand to be alone until then, I'm done in black and the road becomes my own while we figure it all out I will turn and face a strain what we need is straight hey, hey you give it everything you got to keep this dream from turning around but we are here like it or not. Hot all the love we found turned a heartache and the mistake that we made but came too much to wear and I'm afraid that the love I'm making just get taken away get away.

Speaker C:

That sound like my driver's license song.

Speaker B:

That's the pop song and, you know, take it away. 2020 was a hard year for relationships, and my wife and I had a bit of trouble. But honestly, like, we worked through that shit so fast and so well, like oh, you can bleep that. Sorry.

Speaker C:

Oh, no.

Speaker A:

Shit'S. Accepted.

Speaker B:

Oh, nice. I'm just super proud of us for stepping up because I've seen a lot of really powerful people just like crumble under the pressure. That was last year. A lot of relationships just didn't make it. So hopefully that song resonates with people and makes them feel a little better. What's it going to do?

Speaker A:

Oh, yeah.

Speaker B:

Pet stuff.

Speaker C:

Pet stuff.

Speaker B:

Pet stuff.

Speaker A:

All right, you got to pick your favorite pet song you've done so far besides because we know the Cock songs by far your favorite.

Speaker B:

It's definitely like the number one new one. I haven't showed that to my friends yet, so I'm excited to you have.

Speaker C:

To have an educational video beforehand for people who don't know what a flowerhorn is. You have to have right. Like a little talk before you do the big explain.

Speaker B:

I guess I didn't know any of that.

Speaker C:

And you're now a better person for knowing that.

Speaker B:

Exactly. I don't have any of the Pet songs practiced up, really.

Speaker A:

But that is okay.

Speaker B:

I'm going to sing it. I don't have to play it. I can just sing it.

Speaker A:

I mean, it's up to you. We've had do you have one previous groundbreaking experiences tonight?

Speaker C:

If you have one pre recorded, you can play it that way too.

Speaker A:

Right?

Speaker B:

Let's just see what I got here in terms of my Pet songs. What's on? Okay, let's see. I guess what kind of genre we want. We got bluegrass, country.

Speaker A:

We want your favorite.

Speaker B:

My favorite my favorite is this one, I think. Still, we want to make sure this is we know this is too loud.

Speaker A:

I got an adjustment. You're good.

Speaker B:

Got a cat named Mojeko Monahos born.

Speaker E:

In the sky she calls out to the moon every time she passes by her soul that knew the ferrus and many nights before yet she's content to fast asleep keeping our legs warm let me see what's API loving when you're creating in another story commit our life to the allegory move all night.

Speaker A:

That was pretty great.

Speaker B:

That's like my actual favorite in terms of like it's a nice song.

Speaker A:

It's unique as hell. So what did she request to get that song?

Speaker B:

They basically just said something like soft and dreamy.

Speaker A:

That is very dreaming.

Speaker C:

That's very dreaming.

Speaker A:

That's like interstellar dreaming.

Speaker B:

And then one of my favorites, because it's so ridiculous is the Cock song. That song was called she Calls Out to the Moon. And that was kind of a seat more actual. Sweet pet song. Somebody wanted a Medal song about their cat. I didn't specify which metal so I did like three different kinds. And these are really easy to show because they're all so short. But here we go.

Speaker E:

Now I work all day at home no longer the wild never lets me be. She's always watching me who is making all that noise? So I'm tired of her toys quirky cap but scream but nothing that damn.

Speaker B:

Did hear the metallica.

Speaker C:

I feel like I'm at a Night Wish concert.

Speaker A:

Oh, hell yes.

Speaker B:

Catmetal.

Speaker C:

We should satisfy buddy's needs. Do you have a country?

Speaker B:

Absolutely. Yeah.

Speaker A:

We'll end it on country.

Speaker C:

I will grab this rubber mallet, hit myself in the forehead as you do it. But we have to be fair to everyone.

Speaker B:

Absolutely. I wish I had the one finished. I have one verse left of this brand new one. But this one we'll do this one, it's a shorter one.

Speaker E:

Drop it down one pigment soft to say I can't wait to see that orange and white baby, I'll be home tonight. I've been loving all taters. Can't think of nothing greater. Even though when I try to be so kind you love it for a moment that you spent bite tater was the rush of her litter but she just kept getting bigger. Your mother loves you. She's the best. To REM the happiest of home you have them. I'm going to keep loving Tater. I can't think of nothing greater even though when I tried.

Speaker A:

This is great. It doesn't get better. Joe, you're fantastic.

Speaker B:

Thank you.

Speaker C:

This is fun.

Speaker A:

This was more than fun. This was well worth it. If you want to come to the aquarium, guys, podcast for the latest ingredients in the bleeding edge of the hobby. You're going to get great stuff.

Speaker C:

Nobody else has this.

Speaker A:

No one.

Speaker C:

No, it's us. We're cutting edge.

Speaker B:

I haven't really done a thorough enough internet search but I don't know a whole lot of custom pet song makers.

Speaker A:

No, it's pretty much our little circle now.

Speaker B:

It's weird. So if you want to talk about your fish or if you have cats, I mean, they're cats here. Which made me really happy when I got here, by the way. I just love the cats and they love you. Yeah, it was 5 seconds I was here like, oh hey, best friend. But it's just really great. So any pet or if you have a more serious topic or you want me to write a song about a story you had one time, I'm open.

Speaker C:

Have you ever written a song about an ex wife?

Speaker B:

I don't have an ex wife, but I write a song about anyone else's.

Speaker C:

Adam, I heard you laughing.

Speaker F:

That fits under the cat and dog category.

Speaker A:

Doesn't. If you guys want to listen to some songs, go check out Smoke and Joe on Facebook. You have YouTube. We'll have this link in the show notes. So certainly check it out. But $100 gets you a song. Get a song right. If you're going to treat yourself during coveted another round of stimulus coming out. stimulate this guy. He deserves it for all that cocktail.

Speaker B:

Cocktail. And it's something that doesn't take up room in your house that's filled with aquariums.

Speaker C:

We should start a special that we have once a week about cocktalk.

Speaker A:

We should bring J.

Speaker C:

It's kind of like the view.

Speaker A:

J four flowerhorns on for cocktail every now and again.

Speaker C:

Exactly.

Speaker A:

A new segment. Well, smoke and Joe, we need to have you on again. We need to do a music video.

Speaker B:

In the future while we're doing it.

Speaker A:

And we'll come see you next time.

Speaker B:

Maybe at like an event where people there's music and people hey, alcohol.

Speaker A:

Real thought used to happen. We'll get you to do a concert inside a pet store.

Speaker C:

Oh, man.

Speaker B:

I do pet songs in a pet store.

Speaker A:

100%. I'll call forest like pets. We'll see if we can make something.

Speaker B:

Surprise that and thought of that.

Speaker A:

Yes. We'll even see if Joe wants to do one out in this parking lot in the summer.

Speaker B:

That's so funny. I can make a song about shrimp.

Speaker A:

Hell yeah. All right. Well, guys, if you like what you're listening to, go to aquariumgistpodcast.com by the website. You can get some merch, you can throw us a few bucks or you could help out this. You can smile and Joe over here and buy a song. We appreciate it. And as we leave, we want this last ode of silence to go to jim's ex wife. Thanks, guys, for listening to the podcast. Please go to your favorite place where podcasts are found, whether it be spotify, itunes, stitcher, wherever they can be found, like subscribe. And make sure you get push notifications directly to your phone so you don't miss great content like this melting.

Speaker C:

Don't even get me started on this.

Episode Notes

HOT MERCH: https://teespring.com/stores/aquariumguys

Shop Flowerhorn at https://www.j4flowerhorns.com/ with promo code: "AQUARIUMGUYS" for 10% off your order!

Check out Joe's work at https://www.smokinjoeonline.com

Submit your questions at discord.gg/aquariumguys

Support The Aquarium Guys by contributing to their tip jar: https://tips.pinecast.com/jar/the-aquarium-guys

Find out more at http://www.aquariumguyspodcast.com